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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,470
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    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Reagan is blamed for emptying the mental hospitals and has some truth to it but 30 years later who gives a fuck. Its a lazy excuse. Its not like Mental Hospitals were popular after One Flew Over and the 60's and 70's. They weren't. Its not like our friends on the left were sad they went away. They weren't. It's not like anyone is leading the charge to bring them back. They aren't.

    It is the "easiest" answer but like all easy answers it comes with some danger if we go back to involuntary admittance.

    As for our safety net we were in dire straits in 2014 as podcast listeners know. The amount of bullshit to go through to get a couple hundred bucks of food stamps was astounding. I thought I got a Cadillac. We took my unemployment to stay current on bills and borrowed the rent from family. We would have been fucked without them

    I also never blamed anyone but me and took responsibility for being a fucking moron to end up there but that's how we grasshoppers roll.

    Some folks just need a helping hand. How much of that 400 million Seattle collects will get to those hands? Some folks are just plain fucked. I am empathetic while also thinking we pay enough to help the ones that need it if we weren't fucking idiots about it

    Welfare etc. are fine as a helping hand but hitting 8 generations of the same families on welfare was not intended by anyone but the assholes buying voters from the party of Lincoln with our tax dollars.
    I can't believe I'm saying this, but that's exactly right.

    And, PS, that's not an immigration problem. That is a soft-society problem.
    I'm always exactly right ask axe my wife.
    FTFY

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  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Yeah.. those assholes Reagan and Bush shut down funding for asylums. That must have been one hell of a budget line since 30 congresss and 5 presidents of both parties later no one “fixed” it. Did the make it a constitutional amendment or something? Good Christ.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,698
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    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Yeah.. those assholes Reagan and Bush shut down funding for asylums. That must have been one hell of a budget line since 30 congresss and 5 presidents of both parties later no one “fixed” it. Did the make it a constitutional amendment or something? Good Christ.
    It would appear you missed a few intervening posts. Sorry for besmirching your heroes. Didn't think you were that sensitive. As I mentioned to Race, when this discussion already happened while you were God Knows Where doing God Knows What, when someone, anyone, musters the political capital to kill something that other people don't want to spend political capital saving or reviving, you kill it good and it stays dead.

    Frankly, I don't really care who did it, but I remember that they did it, and I remember the stupid af rationale: it takes a village. That's probably where Hillary got it.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.

    Do better.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Yeah.. those assholes Reagan and Bush shut down funding for asylums. That must have been one hell of a budget line since 30 congresss and 5 presidents of both parties later no one “fixed” it. Did the make it a constitutional amendment or something? Good Christ.
    It would appear you missed a few intervening posts. Sorry for besmirching your heroes. Didn't think you were that sensitive. As I mentioned to Race, when this discussion already happened while you were God Knows Where doing God Knows What, when someone, anyone, musters the political capital to kill something that other people don't want to spend political capital saving or reviving, you kill it good and it stays dead.

    Frankly, I don't really care who did it, but I remember that they did it, and I remember the stupid af rationale: it takes a village. That's probably where Hillary got it.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.

    Do better.
    Not my heros. However, the point is if a problem was created 35 years ago, don’t you think there was ample time to fix the issue? Or maybe that’s not the problem.

    You were never a decent poster. I normally just scroll through your stupid shit, but some asshole bolded some of your whiny bitch post. I didn’t waste any time reading anything else of your horseshit post. So I have no idea what was in it.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,480
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    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Yeah.. those assholes Reagan and Bush shut down funding for asylums. That must have been one hell of a budget line since 30 congresss and 5 presidents of both parties later no one “fixed” it. Did the make it a constitutional amendment or something? Good Christ.
    It would appear you missed a few intervening posts. Sorry for besmirching your heroes. Didn't think you were that sensitive. As I mentioned to Race, when this discussion already happened while you were God Knows Where doing God Knows What, when someone, anyone, musters the political capital to kill something that other people don't want to spend political capital saving or reviving, you kill it good and it stays dead.

    Frankly, I don't really care who did it, but I remember that they did it, and I remember the stupid af rationale: it takes a village. That's probably where Hillary got it.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.

    Do better.
    Not my heros. However, the point is if a problem was created 35 years ago, don’t you think there was ample time to fix the issue? Or maybe that’s not the problem.

    You were never a decent poster. I normally just scroll through your stupid shit, but some asshole bolded some of your whiny bitch post. I didn’t waste any time reading anything else of your horseshit post. So I have no idea what was in it.
    Free pub!!




  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,698
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    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Yeah.. those assholes Reagan and Bush shut down funding for asylums. That must have been one hell of a budget line since 30 congresss and 5 presidents of both parties later no one “fixed” it. Did the make it a constitutional amendment or something? Good Christ.
    It would appear you missed a few intervening posts. Sorry for besmirching your heroes. Didn't think you were that sensitive. As I mentioned to Race, when this discussion already happened while you were God Knows Where doing God Knows What, when someone, anyone, musters the political capital to kill something that other people don't want to spend political capital saving or reviving, you kill it good and it stays dead.

    Frankly, I don't really care who did it, but I remember that they did it, and I remember the stupid af rationale: it takes a village. That's probably where Hillary got it.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.

    Do better.
    Not my heros. However, the point is if a problem was created 35 years ago, don’t you think there was ample time to fix the issue? Or maybe that’s not the problem.

    You were never a decent poster. I normally just scroll through your stupid shit, but some asshole bolded some of your whiny bitch post. I didn’t waste any time reading anything else of your horseshit post. So I have no idea what was in it.
    As I said, discussed and answered. Maybe if you tried reading or something.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Bezos is a worm. He even looks like one. You faggots keep buying shit on Amazon and propping it up like cogs in the machinery, while they continue to destroy businesses and jobs everywhere, large and small. You think this is going to end well?

    I don’t give a fuck what he does or looks like. He provides a service delivering goods efficiently and at a good price. What an asshole!!!
    There's a chin for you DaBoner. We agree on something.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Yeah.. those assholes Reagan and Bush shut down funding for asylums. That must have been one hell of a budget line since 30 congresss and 5 presidents of both parties later no one “fixed” it. Did the make it a constitutional amendment or something? Good Christ.
    It would appear you missed a few intervening posts. Sorry for besmirching your heroes. Didn't think you were that sensitive. As I mentioned to Race, when this discussion already happened while you were God Knows Where doing God Knows What, when someone, anyone, musters the political capital to kill something that other people don't want to spend political capital saving or reviving, you kill it good and it stays dead.

    Frankly, I don't really care who did it, but I remember that they did it, and I remember the stupid af rationale: it takes a village. That's probably where Hillary got it.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.

    Do better.
    Not my heros. However, the point is if a problem was created 35 years ago, don’t you think there was ample time to fix the issue? Or maybe that’s not the problem.

    You were never a decent poster. I normally just scroll through your stupid shit, but some asshole bolded some of your whiny bitch post. I didn’t waste any time reading anything else of your horseshit post. So I have no idea what was in it.
    As I said, discussed and answered. Maybe if you tried reading or something.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.
    No thanks. I’ll pass.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,698
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    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Yeah.. those assholes Reagan and Bush shut down funding for asylums. That must have been one hell of a budget line since 30 congresss and 5 presidents of both parties later no one “fixed” it. Did the make it a constitutional amendment or something? Good Christ.
    It would appear you missed a few intervening posts. Sorry for besmirching your heroes. Didn't think you were that sensitive. As I mentioned to Race, when this discussion already happened while you were God Knows Where doing God Knows What, when someone, anyone, musters the political capital to kill something that other people don't want to spend political capital saving or reviving, you kill it good and it stays dead.

    Frankly, I don't really care who did it, but I remember that they did it, and I remember the stupid af rationale: it takes a village. That's probably where Hillary got it.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.

    Do better.
    Not my heros. However, the point is if a problem was created 35 years ago, don’t you think there was ample time to fix the issue? Or maybe that’s not the problem.

    You were never a decent poster. I normally just scroll through your stupid shit, but some asshole bolded some of your whiny bitch post. I didn’t waste any time reading anything else of your horseshit post. So I have no idea what was in it.
    As I said, discussed and answered. Maybe if you tried reading or something.

    You used to be a decent poster. I haven’t paid any attention to yiu for quite some time but yhis is some pretty cringeworthy shit. Maybe in my time off I missed your decline. It’s sad to see what you’ve become.
    No thanks. I’ll pass.
    Yeah I know.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    Thread lost steam quick.
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