Arizona State was undefeated in non-conference play with wins over Big East regular season champion, Xavier, at a neutral site; the Big 12 Champion, Kansas, in Lawrence; Big 12 #4 Kansas State, at a neutral site; and Mountain West Champion, San Diego State. The Devils also played the Big East's St. John's at a neutral site and the SEC's Vanderbilt.
USC on the other hand went 9-4, losing by 16 on their home court to seven-seed Texas A&M; losing a road game to SMU by 17, which finished ninth in the American Athletic Conference; and dropping games in Los Angeles to 10-seed Oklahoma and 12-16 Princeton by 10. The Trojans' best wins all season were by five at a neutral site against Middle Tennessee State, a 3-seed in the NIT, and by five at a neutral site against WAC Champion, New Mexico State.
USC's path to the Pac-12 Tournament Championship went through the Oregon schools, which the Trojans went a perfect 6-0 against on the season. If Arizona State gets the opportunity to play a Tinkle-less Oregon State and a tired Oregon, the Devils play in the championship, as well.
Breaking down Arizona State and USC's Pac-12 resume:
Neither team beat #1 Arizona. Arizona State beat #2 USC. USC swept #3 Utah. Arizona State split. Arizona State beat #4 UCLA. USC got swept.
Against the top four teams in the Pac-12, Arizona State went 3-3. Against the top four teams in the Pac-12 (and Arizona State), USC went 2-4. The Trojans cleaned up against the dregs of the Pac-12, but the Devils played much better in non-conference to pretty much offset that.
Plus, you have the suitcase full of money argument. USC is under investigation by the Federal Government. Arizona State is not.
Arizona State was undefeated in non-conference play with wins over Big East regular season champion, Xavier, at a neutral site; the Big 12 Champion, Kansas, in Lawrence; Big 12 #4 Kansas State, at a neutral site; and Mountain West Champion, San Diego State. The Devils also played the Big East's St. John's at a neutral site and the SEC's Vanderbilt.
USC on the other hand went 9-4, losing by 16 on their home court to seven-seed Texas A&M; losing a road game to SMU by 17, which finished ninth in the American Athletic Conference; and dropping games in Los Angeles to 10-seed Oklahoma and 12-16 Princeton by 10. The Trojans' best wins all season were by five at a neutral site against Middle Tennessee State, a 3-seed in the NIT, and by five at a neutral site against WAC Champion, New Mexico State.
USC's path to the Pac-12 Tournament Championship went through the Oregon schools, which the Trojans went a perfect 6-0 against on the season. If Arizona State gets the opportunity to play a Tinkle-less Oregon State and a tired Oregon, the Devils play in the championship, as well.
Breaking down Arizona State and USC's Pac-12 resume:
Neither team beat #1 Arizona. Arizona State beat #2 USC. USC swept #3 Utah. Arizona State split. Arizona State beat #4 UCLA. USC got swept.
Against the top four teams in the Pac-12, Arizona State went 3-3. Against the top four teams in the Pac-12 (and Arizona State), USC went 2-4. The Trojans cleaned up against the dregs of the Pac-12, but the Devils played much better in non-conference to pretty much offset that.
Plus, you have the suitcase full of money argument. USC is under investigation by the Federal Government. Arizona State is not.
This is actually...spot on. I was very anti-ASU but this laid it out well.
And yes, I think the committee had the edict from Emmert to basically boot any team on the bubble (Louisville, USC, Ok State) in the FBI scandal. Interesting to see if Arizona gets screwed by the refs in the Sweet 16/Elite 8 to prevent them from going to San Antonio.
Arizona State was undefeated in non-conference play with wins over Big East regular season champion, Xavier, at a neutral site; the Big 12 Champion, Kansas, in Lawrence; Big 12 #4 Kansas State, at a neutral site; and Mountain West Champion, San Diego State. The Devils also played the Big East's St. John's at a neutral site and the SEC's Vanderbilt.
USC on the other hand went 9-4, losing by 16 on their home court to seven-seed Texas A&M; losing a road game to SMU by 17, which finished ninth in the American Athletic Conference; and dropping games in Los Angeles to 10-seed Oklahoma and 12-16 Princeton by 10. The Trojans' best wins all season were by five at a neutral site against Middle Tennessee State, a 3-seed in the NIT, and by five at a neutral site against WAC Champion, New Mexico State.
USC's path to the Pac-12 Tournament Championship went through the Oregon schools, which the Trojans went a perfect 6-0 against on the season. If Arizona State gets the opportunity to play a Tinkle-less Oregon State and a tired Oregon, the Devils play in the championship, as well.
Breaking down Arizona State and USC's Pac-12 resume:
Neither team beat #1 Arizona. Arizona State beat #2 USC. USC swept #3 Utah. Arizona State split. Arizona State beat #4 UCLA. USC got swept.
Against the top four teams in the Pac-12, Arizona State went 3-3. Against the top four teams in the Pac-12 (and Arizona State), USC went 2-4. The Trojans cleaned up against the dregs of the Pac-12, but the Devils played much better in non-conference to pretty much offset that.
Plus, you have the suitcase full of money argument. USC is under investigation by the Federal Government. Arizona State is not.
Solid argument for ASU over USC. However, I think the one team that "really" got screwed was Notre Dame. I think the Irish were better than both of them.
NO solid argument for ASU. If they were giving berths based on the PreSeason, then sure, give them the Preseason berth. However there is no such thing. They went 8 and fucking 11 in the 10th best conference in America and proved they didn't belong by losing in the 1st round.
NO solid argument for ASU. If they were giving berths based on the PreSeason, then sure, give them the Preseason berth. However there is no such thing. They went 8 and fucking 11 in the 10th best conference in America and proved they didn't belong by losing in the 1st round.
Hey dipshit
They went 20-12 overall with some really good wins. Which is all that matters.
NO solid argument for ASU. If they were giving berths based on the PreSeason, then sure, give them the Preseason berth. However there is no such thing. They went 8 and fucking 11 in the 10th best conference in America and proved they didn't belong by losing in the 1st round.
Hey dipshit
They went 20-12 overall with some really good wins. Which is all that matters.
Conference doesnt matter.
And last time I checked Cuse aint all that bad
They suck.
Not as hard as your take though.
It will be special to see their First Four banner hung in Taco Johns arena next November though.
NO solid argument for ASU. If they were giving berths based on the PreSeason, then sure, give them the Preseason berth. However there is no such thing. They went 8 and fucking 11 in the 10th best conference in America and proved they didn't belong by losing in the 1st round.
Hey dipshit
They went 20-12 overall with some really good wins. Which is all that matters.
Conference doesnt matter.
And last time I checked Cuse aint all that bad
They suck.
Not as hard as your take though.
It will be special to see their First Four banner hung in Taco Johns arena next November though.
My take is right. Considering thats what the committee said they are looking for. And they got in.
Arizona State was undefeated in non-conference play with wins over Big East regular season champion, Xavier, at a neutral site; the Big 12 Champion, Kansas, in Lawrence; Big 12 #4 Kansas State, at a neutral site; and Mountain West Champion, San Diego State. The Devils also played the Big East's St. John's at a neutral site and the SEC's Vanderbilt.
USC on the other hand went 9-4, losing by 16 on their home court to seven-seed Texas A&M; losing a road game to SMU by 17, which finished ninth in the American Athletic Conference; and dropping games in Los Angeles to 10-seed Oklahoma and 12-16 Princeton by 10. The Trojans' best wins all season were by five at a neutral site against Middle Tennessee State, a 3-seed in the NIT, and by five at a neutral site against WAC Champion, New Mexico State.
USC's path to the Pac-12 Tournament Championship went through the Oregon schools, which the Trojans went a perfect 6-0 against on the season. If Arizona State gets the opportunity to play a Tinkle-less Oregon State and a tired Oregon, the Devils play in the championship, as well.
Breaking down Arizona State and USC's Pac-12 resume:
Neither team beat #1 Arizona. Arizona State beat #2 USC. USC swept #3 Utah. Arizona State split. Arizona State beat #4 UCLA. USC got swept.
Against the top four teams in the Pac-12, Arizona State went 3-3. Against the top four teams in the Pac-12 (and Arizona State), USC went 2-4. The Trojans cleaned up against the dregs of the Pac-12, but the Devils played much better in non-conference to pretty much offset that.
Plus, you have the suitcase full of money argument. USC is under investigation by the Federal Government. Arizona State is not.
The real question is how the fuck did they win all those preseason games? What the fuck happened?
Arizona State was undefeated in non-conference play with wins over Big East regular season champion, Xavier, at a neutral site; the Big 12 Champion, Kansas, in Lawrence; Big 12 #4 Kansas State, at a neutral site; and Mountain West Champion, San Diego State. The Devils also played the Big East's St. John's at a neutral site and the SEC's Vanderbilt.
USC on the other hand went 9-4, losing by 16 on their home court to seven-seed Texas A&M; losing a road game to SMU by 17, which finished ninth in the American Athletic Conference; and dropping games in Los Angeles to 10-seed Oklahoma and 12-16 Princeton by 10. The Trojans' best wins all season were by five at a neutral site against Middle Tennessee State, a 3-seed in the NIT, and by five at a neutral site against WAC Champion, New Mexico State.
USC's path to the Pac-12 Tournament Championship went through the Oregon schools, which the Trojans went a perfect 6-0 against on the season. If Arizona State gets the opportunity to play a Tinkle-less Oregon State and a tired Oregon, the Devils play in the championship, as well.
Breaking down Arizona State and USC's Pac-12 resume:
Neither team beat #1 Arizona. Arizona State beat #2 USC. USC swept #3 Utah. Arizona State split. Arizona State beat #4 UCLA. USC got swept.
Against the top four teams in the Pac-12, Arizona State went 3-3. Against the top four teams in the Pac-12 (and Arizona State), USC went 2-4. The Trojans cleaned up against the dregs of the Pac-12, but the Devils played much better in non-conference to pretty much offset that.
Plus, you have the suitcase full of money argument. USC is under investigation by the Federal Government. Arizona State is not.
The real question is how the fuck did they win all those preseason games? What the fuck happened?
The ASU coeds discovered the BBC on the basketball team after football season was over.
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USC on the other hand went 9-4, losing by 16 on their home court to seven-seed Texas A&M; losing a road game to SMU by 17, which finished ninth in the American Athletic Conference; and dropping games in Los Angeles to 10-seed Oklahoma and 12-16 Princeton by 10. The Trojans' best wins all season were by five at a neutral site against Middle Tennessee State, a 3-seed in the NIT, and by five at a neutral site against WAC Champion, New Mexico State.
USC's path to the Pac-12 Tournament Championship went through the Oregon schools, which the Trojans went a perfect 6-0 against on the season. If Arizona State gets the opportunity to play a Tinkle-less Oregon State and a tired Oregon, the Devils play in the championship, as well.
Breaking down Arizona State and USC's Pac-12 resume:
Neither team beat #1 Arizona.
Arizona State beat #2 USC.
USC swept #3 Utah. Arizona State split.
Arizona State beat #4 UCLA. USC got swept.
Against the top four teams in the Pac-12, Arizona State went 3-3. Against the top four teams in the Pac-12 (and Arizona State), USC went 2-4. The Trojans cleaned up against the dregs of the Pac-12, but the Devils played much better in non-conference to pretty much offset that.
Plus, you have the suitcase full of money argument. USC is under investigation by the Federal Government. Arizona State is not.
And yes, I think the committee had the edict from Emmert to basically boot any team on the bubble (Louisville, USC, Ok State) in the FBI scandal. Interesting to see if Arizona gets screwed by the refs in the Sweet 16/Elite 8 to prevent them from going to San Antonio.
They went 20-12 overall with some really good wins. Which is all that matters.
Conference doesnt matter.
And last time I checked Cuse aint all that bad
Not as hard as your take though.
It will be special to see their First Four banner hung in Taco Johns arena next November though.