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Commitments and Visits in the Petersen Era (2014-2017 data)

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  • TequillaTequilla Posts: 13,913
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    Here's a few schools for comparison sake.

    Conversion Breakdowns (visitor to signee) 2014-2017

    USC
    2017: 14/27
    2016: 14/29
    2015: 23/31
    2014: 17/24

    Overall: 68/111
    61.26%

    Bama
    2017: 27/45
    2016: 19/57
    2015: 24/36
    2014: 24/48

    Overall: 94 /186
    50.53%

    FSU
    2017: 23/36
    2016: 26/40
    2015: 19/34
    2014: 28/51

    Overall: 96/161
    59.62%


    tOSU

    2017: 17/30
    2016: 23/42
    2015: 26/46
    2014: 20/36

    Overall: 86/154
    55.84%

    Oklahoma

    2017: 24/48
    2016: 13/35
    2015: 11/35
    2014: 18/34

    Overall: 66/152
    43.42%
    Not surprised it's Norman.



    TL;DR
    UW needs to bring in more elite guys on visits because they can sell the shit out of the program in SEATTLE. Winning will help a ton with getting elite guys up here on visits (duh). Basically we suck at getting (elite) kids up here.

    That's a theory ... but I think it's flawed
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    Edwin_Bambino
  • backthepackbackthepack Posts: 5,859
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    Tequilla said:

    Here's a few schools for comparison sake.

    Conversion Breakdowns (visitor to signee) 2014-2017

    USC
    2017: 14/27
    2016: 14/29
    2015: 23/31
    2014: 17/24

    Overall: 68/111
    61.26%

    Bama
    2017: 27/45
    2016: 19/57
    2015: 24/36
    2014: 24/48

    Overall: 94 /186
    50.53%

    FSU
    2017: 23/36
    2016: 26/40
    2015: 19/34
    2014: 28/51

    Overall: 96/161
    59.62%


    tOSU

    2017: 17/30
    2016: 23/42
    2015: 26/46
    2014: 20/36

    Overall: 86/154
    55.84%

    Oklahoma

    2017: 24/48
    2016: 13/35
    2015: 11/35
    2014: 18/34

    Overall: 66/152
    43.42%
    Not surprised it's Norman.



    TL;DR
    UW needs to bring in more elite guys on visits because they can sell the shit out of the program in SEATTLE. Winning will help a ton with getting elite guys up here on visits (duh). Basically we suck at getting (elite) kids up here.

    That's a theory ... but I think it's flawed
    I said it was flawed in an earlier poast. I'll break it down by stars.
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    Disagree. HIV maybe, but definitely not full blown AIDS just yet.
    backthepack
  • backthepackbackthepack Posts: 5,859
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    this thread has aids

    Disagree. HIV maybe, but definitely not full blown AIDS just yet.
    Needs more @BallzDeep
    NorwegianHusky
  • TequillaTequilla Posts: 13,913
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    Tequilla said:

    Here's a few schools for comparison sake.

    Conversion Breakdowns (visitor to signee) 2014-2017

    USC
    2017: 14/27
    2016: 14/29
    2015: 23/31
    2014: 17/24

    Overall: 68/111
    61.26%

    Bama
    2017: 27/45
    2016: 19/57
    2015: 24/36
    2014: 24/48

    Overall: 94 /186
    50.53%

    FSU
    2017: 23/36
    2016: 26/40
    2015: 19/34
    2014: 28/51

    Overall: 96/161
    59.62%


    tOSU

    2017: 17/30
    2016: 23/42
    2015: 26/46
    2014: 20/36

    Overall: 86/154
    55.84%

    Oklahoma

    2017: 24/48
    2016: 13/35
    2015: 11/35
    2014: 18/34

    Overall: 66/152
    43.42%
    Not surprised it's Norman.



    TL;DR
    UW needs to bring in more elite guys on visits because they can sell the shit out of the program in SEATTLE. Winning will help a ton with getting elite guys up here on visits (duh). Basically we suck at getting (elite) kids up here.

    That's a theory ... but I think it's flawed
    I said it was flawed in an earlier poast. I'll break it down by stars.
    Here's how I look at it ...

    In general, Pete and staff does a tremendous job of identifying the players (and their families) that are buying what Pete, UW, and the OKG philosophy is. As your numbers show, we're pretty damn consistent with getting 2 out of every 3 guys on campus on officials to end up showing up. Definitely that's closing the deal.

    In some ways, it's a bit of a diversion from what @Dennis_DeYoung likes to talk about with respect to allocating resources properly in recruiting to maximize the expected return. Dennis tends to look at it from a geographic viewpoint. I tend to look at it more from the way that you've laid it out here in making sure that we're finding the guys that are buying in and then closing them.

    When you look at more national programs like Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State, and Oklahoma that are bringing in substantially more kids on visits, a lot of it in my mind falls more in that these programs are more destination programs. Taking Alabama in particular, if you're an elite kid, and you get an offer from Alabama and in a position to take an official, you're likely going to take it. And from Alabama's point of view, let's say they need 2 WRs in a class but 5 of the top 8 guys in the country are very interested, while I'm sure that Saban may have a preference out of those 5, I'd be willing to bet that they are feeling pretty good as long as 2 of the 5 commit at some point and they can leverage those trips to maximize pressure on those that they really want to commit. But there's a lot of it that goes into play in recruiting at those schools that quite frankly at Washington we're not at that point yet.

    The challenge for UW going forward is finding a way to expand that OKG base in a way where we're able to get more elite players to consider us and then my guess is if we're capable of doing so, you'll find our "close rate" to drop a little bit from where it's at currently.

    It's all a matter of what the underlying philosophy is for a program and there is no right or wrong way in my mind ... it's whatever works for each respective program.
    backthepackNeighbor2972Swaye
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