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Madonna exposes 17-year old girl's breast in concert

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 59,899
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,783
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    Mom looks like she may have blown roadies for meth money at one time.
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    doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
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    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Madonna is lame, but this isn't a big deal.
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,466
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    The legal age in Australia is 16 so this really isn't a big deal. If it happened in California she could probably sue Madonna and settle for a few mill.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,060
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    I'm only mad I wasn't there to see it.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 59,899
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    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,134
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    DerekJohnson said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

    Causation?
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    PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,459
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    edited March 2016
    DerekJohnson said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

    Financially? Women don't need to work. That's silly. And who said anything about dad being 15?
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    DerekJohnson said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

    If only there were multiple ways of making sure they don't become parents.
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,466
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    DerekJohnson said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

    I think it has more to do with the puritan influence on policy that can put a 19 year old in jail/on a sex offender list and ruin his life for something biologically natural.
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    sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
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    DerekJohnson said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

    how hard is it *really* to learn how to swipe an EBT card?
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,783
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    edited March 2016
    DerekJohnson said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

    Most 22 year old women aren't capable.

    In fact about half of the people having kids probably shouldn't be.

    I know a 24 yr old girl who has one and another one is due about now if she hasn't already popped it out. Her boyfriend (not her husband) works at a call center. He might make $10.50 an hour. She decided to quit her original $10 an hour job because "they" (the employer) fucked up her healthcare or something. Then she took some part time thing making about the same. Then she quit that and decided the best path was to get paid $500 a month by a couple to look after their kid, work at her aunt's dive bar, and probably get plenty of WIC, Welfare, unemployment etc. That's literally what at least 1/3 of this country does, if not 35 or 40%. Then the kids grow up on at least some government assistance and think it's just normal. These people aren't planning their families. They don't give a fuck. It's pop out a kid so someone will love me, or my religion tells me to, or both.

    I know, I know, I run in high circles. I haven't seen her in months though.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    DerekJohnson said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Back in the early 20th century my great grandmother had my grandfather at fifteen. It's these fucked up Puritan sexual politics that says 18 is some sort of magic demarcation between childhood and adulthood. Wish people would stop being so scared of sex and human bodies. Fuck!

    There was a good underlying reason for it though. Are 15-year old girls in our society psychologically and financially capable of rearing children in a productive way? We know 15-year old boys aren't capable of being great fathers. Part of the mess we have with society is unwed moms and kids who don't even know how to take care of themselves raising kids of their own.

    I'll take this as your tacit endorsement of Planned Parenthood.
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    sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
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    Where else are women gonna find quality health care in America?
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