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Black Americans don't want to abolish ICE

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    USMChawk said:

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    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    USMChawk said:

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    USMChawk said:

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    USMChawk said:

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    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

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    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,796
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    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
    “Supposedly”.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/07/keith-ellison-open-borders-shirt/
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,226
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,796
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    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
    You can use Google’s Spanish to English link and see that it says: ‘I don’t believe in borders’.



  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    lol

    Popular on the left, but unpopular with Americans.

    Race is a uniter, not a divider.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,796
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    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    lol

    Popular on the left, but unpopular with Americans.

    Race is a uniter, not a divider.
    Open borders are pretty much unpopular with every population group on earth. Ausies, Japanese, Frogs, etc are all mor raysiss that us. It's been in our DNA for thousands and thousands of years to distrust the other tribe.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    lol

    Popular on the left, but unpopular with Americans.

    Race is a uniter, not a divider.
    Open borders are pretty much unpopular with every population group on earth. Ausies, Japanese, Frogs, etc are all mor raysiss that us. It's been in our DNA for thousands and thousands of years to distrust the other tribe.
    Popular on the left is what I heard.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,717
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    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    lol

    Popular on the left, but unpopular with Americans.

    Race is a uniter, not a divider.
    Open borders are pretty much unpopular with every population group on earth. Ausies, Japanese, Frogs, etc are all mor raysiss that us. It's been in our DNA for thousands and thousands of years to distrust the other tribe.
    Popular on the left is what I heard.
    You deny this?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,483
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    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    USMChawk said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    So apparently black Americans are even more raysiss than white Americans when it comes to immigration policy. @RaceBannon true?

    But the times, to coin a phrase, they are a changin’. Democrats who believe that they have a permanent hold on the African-American vote should take a look at how these voters view their position on immigration. A recent Harvard-Harris survey found that African-Americans are the racial group most opposed to unlimited immigration. Whereas 79 percent of whites want to prioritize legal immigrants based on what they can contribute to our society, fully 85 percent of African-Americans hold that view. A party that advocates open borders and the abolition of ICE is going to get fewer and fewer of their votes.

    https://spectator.org/the-next-american-revolution-walkaway/

    What party is that exactly?
    The "Party of the People"

    Use critical thinking. The abolish ICE thing is dumb and most Americans, like you, aren't smart enough to understand what they are saying. That being said, no politician is advocating, or wanting to, have open borders.
    Yes they are


    Just because it is political suicide doesn't make it not so

    The old Americans are too stupid to understand the brilliance of the democrats bullshit being trotted out here

    Americans are too smart to buy the shit

    If you don't want border enforcement you want open borders

    Period fucking end of story
    You still haven't produced one link saying they want open borders. Other than conservative bullshit
    Keith Ellison, the Deputy Chair of the DNC, was photographed wearing a shirt that translates to “I Don’t Believe in Borders”.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/25/keith-ellison-poses-with-stolen-land-sign/
    Using your logic, all of Fox news are white supremacists.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395650-guilflyle-photographed-with-pizzagate-conspiracy-theorist?amp
    My logic? You asked for one link and I provided it. Now you’re just deflecting.
    Your link is fucktarded.

    HTH
    As I constantly have to ‘click to reveal’ your downvoted posts, Occam’s Razor infers that it’s you that’s fucktarded.
    Derek and his minions are right wing, Fox news, dicksuckers. While some are college educated, most, like you, can't think for themselves.

    No one of any influence in the legislative process wants open borders. But your news source tells you they do so you believe it.



    Yet you can't find any Democrat in Congress who wants open borders.
    Keith Ellison. Still a Congressman. Still a Democrat.

    You found that he supposedly wore a t-shirt saying that.
    Your dream girl does.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/8/hillary-clinton-dreams-open-borders-leaked-speech-/
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    lol

    Popular on the left, but unpopular with Americans.

    Race is a uniter, not a divider.
    Open borders are pretty much unpopular with every population group on earth. Ausies, Japanese, Frogs, etc are all mor raysiss that us. It's been in our DNA for thousands and thousands of years to distrust the other tribe.
    Popular on the left is what I heard.
    You deny this?
    No. I do not deny this.

    I was just lol'ing about the unpopular with Americans but popular with the left thing.

    Not everyone has the same sense of humor I do.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,717
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    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    lol

    Popular on the left, but unpopular with Americans.

    Race is a uniter, not a divider.
    Open borders are pretty much unpopular with every population group on earth. Ausies, Japanese, Frogs, etc are all mor raysiss that us. It's been in our DNA for thousands and thousands of years to distrust the other tribe.
    Popular on the left is what I heard.
    You deny this?
    No. I do not deny this.

    I was just lol'ing about the unpopular with Americans but popular with the left thing.

    Not everyone has the same sense of humor I do.
    It took me awhile but I did get it after I posted

    Let me say this about that

    American leftists are American!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    Still, a lot of people buy this fucktarded recycled horseshit from the 20th century, so they're going to have to be outnumbered on election day. They're too ignorant to know any better because the media has brainwashed and stupified them, the education system has told them that America is the evil empire and hasn't provided them with the tools to distinguish freedom from fascism. Most of them couldn't locate Romania on a map, much less tell you anything about the history of socialism & communism in Europe, Asia and Latin America. Half of them probably don't know that Venezuela is even a country. These are the people socialists are after. Easy prey.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp

    If you're trying to convince to people who don't agree with your position and are skeptical of your sources, it doesn't help to provide links from the Washington Post (just ridiculous) and poles that were financed by the likes of George Soros and Omidyar.

    https://newsbusters.org/blogs/business/aly-nielsen/2017/07/06/fact-checkers-get-13-million-liberal-billionaires-soros

    The IFCN is a “forum of fact-checkers” run by the Poynter Institute. The IFCN works to coordinate fact-checking between groups and individuals around the world. The IFCN claims “we ensure that funders have no influence over the conclusions we reach in our reports,” most of the funding does come from known liberal sources. Can Poynter be trusted to oversee an unbiased fact-checking network when its own leadership -- and IFCN’s funders -- lean left?

    Poynter’s 15-member Advisory Board includes Vox co-founder Melissa Bell, The Washington Post digital managing editor Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, and reporters from ABC, CBS, CNN and The New York Times. Yet there are no conservative media outlets represented.

    Similarly the Board of Trustees includes Senior Vice President of news at liberal ESPN Rob King, the former vice president for strategic initiatives at the liberal John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, and individuals from The Post and The Times. But again, no conservative media are represented.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:


    I like supporting seniors and clean campaign finance reform. She can pack gun control in her cunt. WTF is solidarity with Puerto Rico?

    I hope the Dems run on this exact platform in 2018. Free housing, jobs, college and health care, open borders, and gay Puerto Ricans. Sounds like a winner.
    We? pay for Medicare and college. It doesn't say free in her platform. Same with your open borders comment. You are usually smarter than that but right there you sound like Race and sledog.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    She says "abolish ICE," which effectively is open borders when there is no longer any enforcement of immigration laws. Sure, technically, it only becomes open borders once they cross it without getting scooped up, so I'll give you that. If they don;t tunnel in or swim the river secretly, or get carried over in a truck, and get caught, they will be detained. But, she wants no ICE, which means nothing happens when they are here, at all. Also, I am giving you the BOD that "Immigration Justice" doesn't mean doing away with Border Patrol, which it probably does.

    Medicare for ALL. Sounds free to me.
    Housing as a human right. Sounds like something that will be free or heavily subsidized at the least.
    Higher education for ALL. Sounds free to me.

    So, we can go round and round about exact wording all day long, you know, and I know, that she means significant government intervention for people of color or poor folks - from reduced cost all the way to FREE. Some sliding scale I'm sure, but if she was Queen for a day, it would be FREE healthcare, housing and college for millions on whatever litmus test she instituted.

    I hope your Dems run on this platform. I'll be delighted in fact.
    It's a fucktarded platform for sure.

    Abolish ICE is like repeal and replace Obamacare. They aren't advocating to end ICE and have zero enforcement of borders. Do some homework man.

    Dems aren't running that platform and I do chuckle at how people freak out about someone who won a primary with 14k votes.
    With that, I actually agree. Some Proggys feel like they're about to ride the Red Tide into shore, and some conservatives seem to believe that to. If there's a pragmatist left in @DNC HQ, they'll stomp that down real quick.
    Exactly, there are some fucktarded liberals/Dems out there and Bernie supporters who want that platform. Problem with the house of Representatives, there are districts where anyone with a D next to their name will win. Same with conservative districts, anyone with an R will win. Because the district is 80% liberal or conservative. So it invites the extreme on both sides to run and win. Which is why Congress has a 10% approval rating yet 90% of them get voted back in every two years.
    “Extreme”

    51% of Americans support government run healthcare for everyone.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2018/04/12/National-Politics/Polling/release_517.xml


    63% of Americans support tuition free college, including more republicans supporting it than against it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/free-college-tuition-republicans-bernie-sanders.html


    48% support universal basic income.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/technology/375587-gallup-poll-americans-split-on-giving-a-universal-basic-income-to-workers?amp


    Abolishing ICE is extreme. Right now. Because none of you dumb fucks pay attention. “We absolutely do need to make sure that our borders are secure”. That quote is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The extreme leftist that wants open borders. It’s not abolish ice and have open borders. It’s abolish ice and replace it with something better.

    Abolish ice has low poll numbers but so does ice with just 37% of Americans having a favorable view of it. Just like everything I listed above started with bad poll numbers abolish ice, once people hear what the plan is instead of the propaganda, will rise.

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b3a3916e4b08c3a8f6c803d


    Keep telling me about how extreme views held by half the country or more are. How we’ll never win in the Midwest even though Bernie spanked Hillary in the Midwest (sorry for the mental image). Keep telling me progressives can’t win when we Richard Ojeda leading in polls as a progressive running for senate is West Fucking Virginia. Keep up the lies, buy into the propaganda, because in the end you’re only fooling yourselves.
    This is why I support @allpurpleallgold regardless of agreement or not

    Dude is not afraid to get out there and say it. I would prefer our elections be run this way so we can settle these things with out dog whistles and winks and nods and shit. Say what you will do then try to do it. That is what Trump is doing

    Having said that I think that saying we just want to replace ICE with something better is disingenuous. Open borders are a real thing among the left. And they are extremely unpopular among Americans

    I support the war I just don't support the troops kind of thing
    I mean I don’t know what you want me to do with this. My radical left candidates aren’t running on open borders. You can call it disingenuous and then I can call anything I want on the right disingenuous. Oh look Trump is a white supremacist and anything he says differently is disingenuous. The left wants open borders and the right holds klan rallies.

    The progressive left running on populist ideas has a secret plan is to get into power, open the borders which is wildly unpopular and then what? Get voted out? This is our master plan? I can’t believe you figured it out.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Hugo Chavez got voted into power too. People forget that once upon a time Venezuela was a rich and thriving democracy until socialists were voted in and killed it, turning it into a quagmire of fail. Now it's a dictatorship and the rest of the details everyone here already knows.

    Simple question. Why will your socialists succeed when the others before them failed without exception? How will Bernie's socialists avoid the pitfalls of their predecessors -- Lenin's socialists, Stalin's socialists, Hitler's socialists, Mao's socialists, Pol Pot's socialists, Chavez's socialists, Fidel's socialists?
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