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The New Democrat Platform?

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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    Sure. Until they see the estimate.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    dflea said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    APAG is right. It’s alarming how much the consolidation of far right wing power without broad popular support among the citizenry is being ignored, especially by the media. What do they think are the consequences of fewer and fewer ways to seek recourse for political grievances.

    Neither the far right nor the far left have broad popular support

    The consolidation of power is by the central government.

    That was the classic election battle, more or less central government. Now it is how much more never less
    Left and far left issues like medicare for all, abortion rights, higher taxes on the wealthy, gun control, and gay marriage have majority popular support according to every poll taken
    But exactly one of those (health Care and health Care funding) are at all important to peoples daily lives.

    You must have missed the massive mobilization led by the Parkland teens for sensible gun control that happened this Spring
    Stop living in the past!














    Quite honestly though, this is what the left fails understand. When you live your life by the outrage of the day, last month's outrage never has time to get addressed.
    I guess what I'm saying is the left needs to learn to FOCUS, dammit!


    Troof. The Outrage De Jour approach is like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher.

    MeToo, Black Lives Matter, income inequality, save the whales, universal health care, gun control, dreamers, carbon footprint, transgender.....

    Just pick one for a year or so, get something done and STFU about the rest.

    It's almost like people have different causes.
    And even almost like people should have room to pursue them, without taking other people’s money to do so.
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,233
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    dnc said:

    Nothing new about that, she's in lockstep with today's democrat party. That's a winning platform in places like Seattle, San Francisco, and apparently New York.

    What is somewhat new is how widespread and accepted the intolerance and violence of the unhinged left is within the party. There was a time when democrats largely had a sense of decency and civility, an appreciation for law and order and would keep the far left within their ranks in check by openly condemning the actions of those who engaged in harassment and outright violence. Today, the party is the unhinged far left, they openly encourage those things.

    Civility lmfao. People will only be oppressed for so long when they've got the numbers.


    Who's being oppressed? The only people with any real argument to being legit oppressed in the US are illegal immigrants, the incarcerated for minor drug crimes and I suppose you could argue the families of the incarcerated. I don't think there's enough in those camps to spark a revolution unless the incarcerate somehow break out of said incarceration, in which case, sure.

    This isn't to say there's aren't other injustices in our country but oppression is a strong word and by and large people in the US aren't being oppressed. If you want to argue for minimum wage labor be my guest. Strong disagree.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oppress

    To crush or burden by abuse of power or authority.

    99% of the country is being oppressed.
    100% of all mankind is oppressed one way or another. It's to what degree of oppression that makes the difference. 99% of American's aren't being oppressed of food, shelter, voting rights, etc. like many other countries. I respect your point of view, but blanket stating that everybody outside of the top 1% of income earners are oppressed sounds pretty entitled, considering most of the 99% live very comfortable lives.
    Sure. And if you wait for things like food, shelter and voting rights to go it’ll already be to late.
    If you pass stupid shit like universal healthcare, price controls on real estate, free universities, which will raise taxes to levels that will make the wealthy leave, then sure it might become a reality.

    You can't socialize a free market system. It doesn't work. The socialist dreams in the Nordic region of the world, started out socialists. Totally different animal, and they have pitfalls too.
    Aside from ultimately not working, socialism as a system of government is inherently incompatible with the US Constitution. It violates basic tenets of the constitution including public sovereignty and individual inherited/natural rights. This is why it is so important to have an originalist supreme court. It is also why the left has been so hell bent on appointing judges who will legislate from the bench, and have aggressively pursued redefining human rights to include goods and services paid for with other peoples money. As we all know, after being cocked blocked by the supreme court on New Deal reforms, FDR attempted a major coup via the Judicial Procedures Reform Bill of 1937, that if passed, would have allowed him to completely stack the bench by adding supreme court judges that would rule favorably on his unconstitutional agenda. That's how they roll.
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