This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now.
Are you in Russia? I don't think you've mentioned it in every post this past week.
If you're in Kamchatka I am. Or anywhere with a hot Russian hooker.
Is there a place in Russia where you aren’t around hot Russian hookers? I haven’t found it yet.
We’ve been told wages have been falling and “there is no middle class anymore” since Reagan. By now you’d think wages would be zero and there would be 20 rich people and 350 million people picking through garbage.
The 3 richest Americans have more money than the bottom 50%. The top 400 has more than 68%. We’re not all picking through yet though so I guess it’s ok.
trickledown does work and did work unless u wanna pretend china doesnt exist
Actually. If you must know.. That chart shows that trickle down does not work. But ok!
it trickled to the chinks instead of the US where it had been trickling for the previous few decades for some reason boomers decided to bring billions of slave peasants suffering under authoritarian regimes into the workforce instead of enjoying prosperity and bringing third worlders in to replace the population instead of having children on the bright side we do get cheap lawn care and plastic shit
You made the exact point. Even through 3 periods of trickle down economics. The wealthy and large businesses still outsourced the jobs to other countries.
you said trickle down doesnt work youre wrong look at seattle i know a dozen utter retards making crazy money in tech solely due to their proximity to wealth none of these people are globally competitive
First, you sound jealous.
Second, what do well paying tech jobs have to do with wealthy passing their tax cuts down to the middle class? They are well paid because of supply and demand. Not because of tax cuts or trickle down.
It's worse than talking to Houston.
The fact you think “trickle down” is an actual economic theory that anyone ever tried to implement speaks volumes. Dumb fuck.
trickledown does work and did work unless u wanna pretend china doesnt exist
Actually. If you must know.. That chart shows that trickle down does not work. But ok!
it trickled to the chinks instead of the US where it had been trickling for the previous few decades for some reason boomers decided to bring billions of slave peasants suffering under authoritarian regimes into the workforce instead of enjoying prosperity and bringing third worlders in to replace the population instead of having children on the bright side we do get cheap lawn care and plastic shit
You made the exact point. Even through 3 periods of trickle down economics. The wealthy and large businesses still outsourced the jobs to other countries.
you said trickle down doesnt work youre wrong look at seattle i know a dozen utter retards making crazy money in tech solely due to their proximity to wealth none of these people are globally competitive
First, you sound jealous.
Second, what do well paying tech jobs have to do with wealthy passing their tax cuts down to the middle class? They are well paid because of supply and demand. Not because of tax cuts or trickle down.
It's worse than talking to Houston.
The fact you think “trickle down” is an actual economic theory that anyone ever tried to implement speaks volumes. Dumb fuck.
Da fuq?
Reaganomics (/reɪɡəˈnɒmɪks/; a portmanteau of [Ronald] Reagan and economics attributed to Paul Harvey)[1] refers to the economic policies promoted by U.S. President Ronald Reagan during the 1980s. These policies are commonly associated with supply-side economics, referred to as trickle-down economics or voodoo economics by political opponents, and free-market economics by political advocates.
This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now.
The US gained wealth in the 1980’s and 90’s but those gains went almost entirely to the upper middle class and elite, hence flat wages and static median household net worth in that timespan.
We’ve been told wages have been falling and “there is no middle class anymore” since Reagan. By now you’d think wages would be zero and there would be 20 rich people and 350 million people picking through garbage.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
I blame you for damn near everything, so we have that in common.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
This is why the socialists will take over the democrat party
Pussies like hondo who just spout a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense don't get votes
Not one solution in sight. Straw men and bogus allegations of things I never said to avoid making a point
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
This is why the socialists will take over the democrat party
Pussies like hondo who just spout a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense don't get votes
Not one solution in sight. Straw men and bogus allegations of things I never said to avoid making a point
Good job dumbass
Race doesn't like the truth. You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. And don't even know what socialism is.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
I blame that shitty education you got at Olympia High School. Too close to too much government work I think.
Bobcats have to claw their way out. We're all pretty tuff that way and ready to rumble when we graduate.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
I think you need to rethink that position.
The implications for that system being wrong go well beyond corporate hierarchy.
Managing a complex, global multi-zillion organization is not responsibility for average people. It's actually a hard thing to do, and it's super easy to fuck it up. There is a local company that has been around for a very long tim that not long ago post very bad #s and lost a pile of cash in one year. New senior management team, and three years later, voila! The company is NOT losing a pile of cash, stock price is up, and they're doing well. Pension payments are being made on tim and people are still working.
It's also a huge responsibility. If those senior people fuck things up, all those workers you care so much about are screwed.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
I think you need to rethink that position.
The implications for that system being wrong go well beyond corporate hierarchy.
Managing a complex, global multi-zillion organization is not responsibility for average people. It's actually a hard thing to do, and it's super easy to fuck it up. There is a local company that has been around for a very long tim that not long ago post very bad #s and lost a pile of cash in one year. New senior management team, and three years later, voila! The company is NOT losing a pile of cash, stock price is up, and they're doing well. Pension payments are being made on tim and people are still working.
It's also a huge responsibility. If those senior people fuck things up, all those workers you care so much about are screwed.
Leadership is hard. It's hard.
That actually is my point. Those senior people do fuck it up. And when they do, they fire the employees and not themselves. Well except the CEO usually goes. And even in the midst of success, they are not allowing overtime at quarter end to make their numbers look good.
That's exactly why I don't work for a large corporation and I'm actually part of the senior management in the firm I work for.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
My friends that worked at and retired from Boeing will disagree.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
I think you need to rethink that position.
The implications for that system being wrong go well beyond corporate hierarchy.
Managing a complex, global multi-zillion organization is not responsibility for average people. It's actually a hard thing to do, and it's super easy to fuck it up. There is a local company that has been around for a very long tim that not long ago post very bad #s and lost a pile of cash in one year. New senior management team, and three years later, voila! The company is NOT losing a pile of cash, stock price is up, and they're doing well. Pension payments are being made on tim and people are still working.
It's also a huge responsibility. If those senior people fuck things up, all those workers you care so much about are screwed.
Leadership is hard. It's hard.
That actually is my point. Those senior people do fuck it up. And when they do, they fire the employees and not themselves. Well except the CEO usually goes. And even in the midst of success, they are not allowing overtime at quarter end to make their numbers look good.
That's exactly why I don't work for a large corporation and I'm actually part of the senior management in the firm I work for.
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It’s literally the first sentence.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
Pussies like hondo who just spout a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense don't get votes
Not one solution in sight. Straw men and bogus allegations of things I never said to avoid making a point
Good job dumbass
You don't have any idea what the word means
Bobcats have to claw their way out. We're all pretty tuff that way and ready to rumble when we graduate.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
#LOSER
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
The implications for that system being wrong go well beyond corporate hierarchy.
Managing a complex, global multi-zillion organization is not responsibility for average people. It's actually a hard thing to do, and it's super easy to fuck it up. There is a local company that has been around for a very long tim that not long ago post very bad #s and lost a pile of cash in one year. New senior management team, and three years later, voila! The company is NOT losing a pile of cash, stock price is up, and they're doing well. Pension payments are being made on tim and people are still working.
It's also a huge responsibility. If those senior people fuck things up, all those workers you care so much about are screwed.
Leadership is hard. It's hard.
That's exactly why I don't work for a large corporation and I'm actually part of the senior management in the firm I work for.