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Finally watched Black Panther...
Swaye
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Um, it was good, I guess. Pretty good. Some major hot black chicks which I liked. Moshone as a General with a super spear was cool. I'd like a vibranium condom I suppose. Armored rhino's are cool.
But, with all I read and heard about this movie I was expecting something truly special. Like Dark Knight or Guardians of the Galaxy cool. Instead, this was Ant Man level stuff. Good, not great. I left with the feeling that perhaps the media over-hyped this because "all black cast." I will admit I did like the underlying message that white people are horrible. That was probably the best part of the film. Still not a great movie on it's own merits.
Meh.
But, with all I read and heard about this movie I was expecting something truly special. Like Dark Knight or Guardians of the Galaxy cool. Instead, this was Ant Man level stuff. Good, not great. I left with the feeling that perhaps the media over-hyped this because "all black cast." I will admit I did like the underlying message that white people are horrible. That was probably the best part of the film. Still not a great movie on it's own merits.
Meh.
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I could see how watching it without simulated bullets flying through your back make it less interesting, but I liked it.
Give me a fucking break.
Also interesting to note Wonder Woman is currently second. LOfuckignL. That was another good movie - in fact WW was better than BP I thought. But better than all those other movies I listed? No fucking way.
All black cast in number 1, and feminism vehicle in number 2. Better than all those other movies that anyone with a half a brain would prefer? Checks out.
It's kind of corny.
They spend so much time trying to be super clever in how the characters meet each other.
My only issue with the film was that they took this (fictional) African country with what seemed to be very interesting cultural practices and then made the villain someone who sounds like they came from Fruitvale Station (strangely enough, another Coogler film starring Michael B. Jordan. Weird). In a span of something like 24 hours this villain (who admittedly was one of the best the MCU has seen) has taken over and is completely ruining the Wakanda that's interesting to see. Then, after T'Challa kills him, it's, "oh wait, he was right."
I just don't like how Coogler kind of turned the film into a cultural message straight from Fruitvale Station instead of an MCU superhero film.
That being said, I'd still put it way up there only behind mayyyybe Deadpool, then for sure Guardians 1, Ragnarok, and Avengers (original and Infinity War). Infinity War is very good because it's fucking ballsy and has a great villain. Dark Knight is better than BP because to me the Dark Knight is the best superhero movie ever made. I've never watched Logan because I have a searing hatred for those films after watching the Wolverine X Men Origins, but I know it's supposed to be great.
The thing with Rotten Tomatoes is that it doesn't offer a weighted grade. 97% just means 97% of critics said it's good - but most critics offer ratings such as x out of 4, or y out of 5. On IMDB, with weighted fan grades, it comes in at 9th.
However, Metacritic ranked all 49 Marvel movies by Metascore (weighted average of every review possible), and Black Panther came in at #1.
I think this is the point where we understand that if critics DON'T favorably review Black Panther, they get called racist. Add that to the fact that it is still an excellent film, and you get the ranking it has. I found Black Panther to be much better than Wonder Woman, which I still really enjoyed (go ahead, call me a fag).
Having watched every MCU film (and a few of the others ranked in the Metacritic ranking), stuff tends to get praised because it is new and different. Most of Rotten Tomatoes' highest ranked movies are like from 1940 or earlier (Get Out is up there, along with Inside Out which fucking sucks, Mad Max, and Moonlight). I won't pretend Citizen Kane isn't great, but holy fuck was Metropolis the most boring fucking film we ever watched in film studies. For the materials they had, it's good, but oh my god my entire film studies class slept through the whole damn thing. That movie fucking sucks by today's standards, and it still has like a 99 percent or something stupid.
Rotten Tomatoes is just not a good measure for so many reasons, but Black Panther is a film that I feel is a) excellent and b) overrated.
Also...wtf is 4-D??? Do people even know what the 4th dimension is? Fuck outta here.
Watched Deadpool 2 last night. Good stuff.
does he really speak with a flamboyant french accent in the movie? ...why?