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2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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Some of you have mentioned it doesn't make sense the tax bill is unpopular (Hi Race). Remember the tax bill was sold that businesses would use the cash to invest in new businesses and therefore creating jobs and the trickle down theory would be fulfilled. Yet the reality is, the majority of the cash is going to stock buybacks and dividends, both of which help the shareholders, which aren't the workers. And the workers see that.

Americans for Tax Fairness, a liberal group that recently started a website detailing what corporations are doing with their tax cuts, which dropped the corporate rate to 21% from 35%, says workers are not getting their fair share.

The group's data, culled from corporate news releases, media reports, analysts and its own research, show that only 6.3 million workers are getting a one-time bonus or pay hike tied to the cuts. That compares with a total U.S. workforce of 155.2 million, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The ATF analysis shows 126 companies have received $60.8 billion in total tax cuts, which it claims is nine times more than the $6.5 billion workers have received in bonuses and pay increases. Corporations, their data show, have spent 37 times more on stock buybacks than worker bonuses or raises since the law was enacted.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/04/13/how-companies-spend-tax-windfall/505122002/
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,278
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    If workers invested their money they would be getting paid.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    If workers invested their money they would be getting paid.

    Yes the guy making $50k a year has the money to invest when the CEO, COO, CIO, CFO, etc. are given stock and stock options.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,695
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    Anything with the acronym ATF is fucked as a source.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,278
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    edited April 2018
    2001400ex said:

    If workers invested their money they would be getting paid.

    Yes the guy making $50k a year has the money to invest when the CEO, COO, CIO, CFO, etc. are given stock and stock options.
    Sure the worker isn't given stock or stock options from work, but if the worker had invested $100-$200/month in the market, which is completely doable, then the worker would have seen a benefit. Especially if the worker had invested in companies that bought back stock.

    Oh...and unemployment is at all time lows, and labor participation rates have stabilized. So there's that...

    Workers might not being getting as big of a raise, but there's also more people working.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    If workers invested their money they would be getting paid.

    Yes the guy making $50k a year has the money to invest when the CEO, COO, CIO, CFO, etc. are given stock and stock options.
    Sure the worker isn't given stock or stock options from work, but if the worker had invested $100-$200/month in the market, which is completely doable, then the worker would have seen a benefit. Especially if the worker had invested in companies that bought back stock.

    Oh...and unemployment is at all time lows, and labor participation rates have stabilized. So there's that...

    Workers might not being getting as big of a raise, but there's also more people working.
    Yes 1/100000000 of the benefit that the CEO is getting.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,278
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    If workers invested their money they would be getting paid.

    Yes the guy making $50k a year has the money to invest when the CEO, COO, CIO, CFO, etc. are given stock and stock options.
    Sure the worker isn't given stock or stock options from work, but if the worker had invested $100-$200/month in the market, which is completely doable, then the worker would have seen a benefit. Especially if the worker had invested in companies that bought back stock.

    Oh...and unemployment is at all time lows, and labor participation rates have stabilized. So there's that...

    Workers might not being getting as big of a raise, but there's also more people working.
    Yes 1/100000000 of the benefit that the CEO is getting.
    The CEO is making 100000000 times the employee to begin with. Why would that change?
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    If workers invested their money they would be getting paid.

    Yes the guy making $50k a year has the money to invest when the CEO, COO, CIO, CFO, etc. are given stock and stock options.
    Sure the worker isn't given stock or stock options from work, but if the worker had invested $100-$200/month in the market, which is completely doable, then the worker would have seen a benefit. Especially if the worker had invested in companies that bought back stock.

    Oh...and unemployment is at all time lows, and labor participation rates have stabilized. So there's that...

    Workers might not being getting as big of a raise, but there's also more people working.
    Yes 1/100000000 of the benefit that the CEO is getting.
    The CEO is making 100000000 times the employee to begin with. Why would that change?
    That's part of the issue. At least from the employee point of view. You know the working class average voter.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,225
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    The tax cuts are popular

    Run against them pussy
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    The tax cuts are popular

    Run against them pussy

    Let's get some RCP up in this bitch. Race doesn't know shit as always.

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,225
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    Run against them pussy
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Run against them pussy

    Tourettes there?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,225
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    Come on pussy

    DO IT
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Come on pussy

    DO IT

    I like this Race. A little outside the box for you but it's a good look.
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,537
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    I always trust an organization/politician/person that uses this phrase "workers are not getting their fair share".
    it just comes down to whining.
    Please define Fair Share
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    LebamDawg said:

    I always trust an organization/politician/person that uses this phrase "workers are not getting their fair share".
    it just comes down to whining.
    Please define Fair Share

    It was sold as a middle class jobs bill. And 90% of the money isn't going to the middle class.

    That help clear it up?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,225
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    Swaye's Wigwam
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    No

    pussy

    I feel the love.
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,537
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    2001400ex said:

    LebamDawg said:

    I always trust an organization/politician/person that uses this phrase "workers are not getting their fair share".
    it just comes down to whining.
    Please define Fair Share

    It was sold as a middle class jobs bill. And 90% of the money isn't going to the middle class.

    That help clear it up?
    60.8 tax savings, 6.5 to workers, and stock buy backs 37 times what the workers got - that is 240.8. Seems 180 Billion mostly of their reserves I would assume?
    So what is wrong? should the workers revolt? should the gov step in? should the corps give the workers the stock the bought back?
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    LebamDawg said:

    2001400ex said:

    LebamDawg said:

    I always trust an organization/politician/person that uses this phrase "workers are not getting their fair share".
    it just comes down to whining.
    Please define Fair Share

    It was sold as a middle class jobs bill. And 90% of the money isn't going to the middle class.

    That help clear it up?
    60.8 tax savings, 6.5 to workers, and stock buy backs 37 times what the workers got - that is 240.8. Seems 180 Billion mostly of their reserves I would assume?
    So what is wrong? should the workers revolt? should the gov step in? should the corps give the workers the stock the bought back?
    Workers will get their constitutionally given right to vote for their representative this fall.

    HTH
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    I moved my savings from my sock drawer to a hole in the back yard for better interest.
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