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Corker on tax cuts

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At the hearing, Corker said his best vote was on the Budget Control Act that limited domestic spending. He also slammed a recent bipartisan spending bill that could add an estimated $2 trillion to the deficit over a decade.

"None of us have covered ourselves in glory. This Congress and this administration likely will go down as one of the most fiscally irresponsible administrations and congresses that we've had," Corker said.


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/382663-corker-tax-cuts-could-be-one-of-worst-votes-ive-made?amp
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,257
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    Run on repealing the tax cuts and grabbing guns

    DO IT
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Run on repealing the tax cuts and grabbing guns

    DO IT

    Your schtick is growing on me.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
    Yes and all those increases are included in dynamic scoring and already included in the $1.9 trillion increase to the debt. I'm still waiting for how 75-80% of that $1.9 trillion will be made up from the economic benefit.

    BTW, I haven't argued in any way that the tax cuts wouldn't increase GDP growth or reduce unemployment.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,257
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    2001400ex said:

    Run on repealing the tax cuts and grabbing guns

    DO IT

    Your schtick is growing on me.
    It's you schtick

    You're just too much of a pussy to say it
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Run on repealing the tax cuts and grabbing guns

    DO IT

    Your schtick is growing on me.
    It's you schtick

    You're just too much of a pussy to say it
    No it's the schtick you want to hear to keep yourself riled up.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,257
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    I'm not riled up

    I want this campaign

    Stop posting links and come out and say it pussy
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    You sound like you are beating off to this discussion. Got some pent up frustrations?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,257
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    What a sick fuck
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    What a sick fuck

    HH bored motto.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
    Yes and all those increases are included in dynamic scoring and already included in the $1.9 trillion increase to the debt. I'm still waiting for how 75-80% of that $1.9 trillion will be made up from the economic benefit.

    BTW, I haven't argued in any way that the tax cuts wouldn't increase GDP growth or reduce unemployment.
    No, they aren't. You asked for a link, I gave it to you. You asked for numbers, I gave them to you. I'll try one more time, but god you are a moron.

    From the 2018 link above:
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Legislative" = -$1.7 trillion
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Economic" = +$1.1 trillion
    That give you ~70%...dig in a little more and the lower unemployment rates, etc gives you a bit more benefit.

    Keep arguing we should crater the economy because the lower interest rate will help debt servicing of the $19 trillion already run up...that's a winner.

    In short, I'd recommend heading back to your corner now with your shiny objects...

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
    Yes and all those increases are included in dynamic scoring and already included in the $1.9 trillion increase to the debt. I'm still waiting for how 75-80% of that $1.9 trillion will be made up from the economic benefit.

    BTW, I haven't argued in any way that the tax cuts wouldn't increase GDP growth or reduce unemployment.
    No, they aren't. You asked for a link, I gave it to you. You asked for numbers, I gave them to you. I'll try one more time, but god you are a moron.

    From the 2018 link above:
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Legislative" = -$1.7 trillion
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Economic" = +$1.1 trillion
    That give you ~70%...dig in a little more and the lower unemployment rates, etc gives you a bit more benefit.

    Keep arguing we should crater the economy because the lower interest rate will help debt servicing of the $19 trillion already run up...that's a winner.

    In short, I'd recommend heading back to your corner now with your shiny objects...

    I'll type this slowly so maybe you'll understand. Because you clearly don't. I'm not arguing that the 2018 forecast is higher growth than the 2017. What I'm saying is, they didn't use the 2017 CBO projection solely for the scoring of the tax cut. They used dynamic scoring which took the 2017 CBO projections and added an estimated economic benefit. Which approximates the 2018 CBO report. What part of that do you not understand about dynamic scoring?

    I didn't argue anything about interest rates. All I said about interest rates are they the CBO increased the projected $1.5 trillion deficit addition to $1.9 trillion largely because interest rates are going up faster than they expected in December.

    It's like you aren't even in the same conversation. Fucking read what is typed. And understand basic concepts like dynamic scoring.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
    Yes and all those increases are included in dynamic scoring and already included in the $1.9 trillion increase to the debt. I'm still waiting for how 75-80% of that $1.9 trillion will be made up from the economic benefit.

    BTW, I haven't argued in any way that the tax cuts wouldn't increase GDP growth or reduce unemployment.
    No, they aren't. You asked for a link, I gave it to you. You asked for numbers, I gave them to you. I'll try one more time, but god you are a moron.

    From the 2018 link above:
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Legislative" = -$1.7 trillion
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Economic" = +$1.1 trillion
    That give you ~70%...dig in a little more and the lower unemployment rates, etc gives you a bit more benefit.

    Keep arguing we should crater the economy because the lower interest rate will help debt servicing of the $19 trillion already run up...that's a winner.

    In short, I'd recommend heading back to your corner now with your shiny objects...

    I'll type this slowly so maybe you'll understand. Because you clearly don't. I'm not arguing that the 2018 forecast is higher growth than the 2017. What I'm saying is, they didn't use the 2017 CBO projection solely for the scoring of the tax cut. They used dynamic scoring which took the 2017 CBO projections and added an estimated economic benefit. Which approximates the 2018 CBO report. What part of that do you not understand about dynamic scoring?

    I didn't argue anything about interest rates. All I said about interest rates are they the CBO increased the projected $1.5 trillion deficit addition to $1.9 trillion largely because interest rates are going up faster than they expected in December.

    It's like you aren't even in the same conversation. Fucking read what is typed. And understand basic concepts like dynamic scoring.
    HondoFS...an embarrassment to the human genetic pool.

    You said I was wrong and asked for a link...I gave you the link, specifically the source material. You then said the numbers are wrong...I pull out the specific numbers from the CBO report itself that show you are a fucking moron and backed up what I said as far as both the CBO impact on revenues from both legislative changes and economic changes.

    So now you keep ignoring anything I said or showed and now just keep blabbering "dynamic" because you think it sounds important or special or something when you have absolutely no clue what it includes and doesn't include.

    HondoFS...



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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
    Yes and all those increases are included in dynamic scoring and already included in the $1.9 trillion increase to the debt. I'm still waiting for how 75-80% of that $1.9 trillion will be made up from the economic benefit.

    BTW, I haven't argued in any way that the tax cuts wouldn't increase GDP growth or reduce unemployment.
    No, they aren't. You asked for a link, I gave it to you. You asked for numbers, I gave them to you. I'll try one more time, but god you are a moron.

    From the 2018 link above:
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Legislative" = -$1.7 trillion
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Economic" = +$1.1 trillion
    That give you ~70%...dig in a little more and the lower unemployment rates, etc gives you a bit more benefit.

    Keep arguing we should crater the economy because the lower interest rate will help debt servicing of the $19 trillion already run up...that's a winner.

    In short, I'd recommend heading back to your corner now with your shiny objects...

    I'll type this slowly so maybe you'll understand. Because you clearly don't. I'm not arguing that the 2018 forecast is higher growth than the 2017. What I'm saying is, they didn't use the 2017 CBO projection solely for the scoring of the tax cut. They used dynamic scoring which took the 2017 CBO projections and added an estimated economic benefit. Which approximates the 2018 CBO report. What part of that do you not understand about dynamic scoring?

    I didn't argue anything about interest rates. All I said about interest rates are they the CBO increased the projected $1.5 trillion deficit addition to $1.9 trillion largely because interest rates are going up faster than they expected in December.

    It's like you aren't even in the same conversation. Fucking read what is typed. And understand basic concepts like dynamic scoring.
    HondoFS...an embarrassment to the human genetic pool.

    You said I was wrong and asked for a link...I gave you the link, specifically the source material. You then said the numbers are wrong...I pull out the specific numbers from the CBO report itself that show you are a fucking moron and backed up what I said as far as both the CBO impact on revenues from both legislative changes and economic changes.

    So now you keep ignoring anything I said or showed and now just keep blabbering "dynamic" because you think it sounds important or special or something when you have absolutely no clue what it includes and doesn't include.

    HondoFS...



    You are funny shit. And are either trolling or really that fucking stupid. I'll say this one last time. The CBO scored the deficit in December at $1.5 trillion, which took into effect The increase in jobs and GDP.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/business/house-republicans-change-rules-on-calculating-economic-impact-of-bills.html
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
    Yes and all those increases are included in dynamic scoring and already included in the $1.9 trillion increase to the debt. I'm still waiting for how 75-80% of that $1.9 trillion will be made up from the economic benefit.

    BTW, I haven't argued in any way that the tax cuts wouldn't increase GDP growth or reduce unemployment.
    No, they aren't. You asked for a link, I gave it to you. You asked for numbers, I gave them to you. I'll try one more time, but god you are a moron.

    From the 2018 link above:
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Legislative" = -$1.7 trillion
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Economic" = +$1.1 trillion
    That give you ~70%...dig in a little more and the lower unemployment rates, etc gives you a bit more benefit.

    Keep arguing we should crater the economy because the lower interest rate will help debt servicing of the $19 trillion already run up...that's a winner.

    In short, I'd recommend heading back to your corner now with your shiny objects...

    I'll type this slowly so maybe you'll understand. Because you clearly don't. I'm not arguing that the 2018 forecast is higher growth than the 2017. What I'm saying is, they didn't use the 2017 CBO projection solely for the scoring of the tax cut. They used dynamic scoring which took the 2017 CBO projections and added an estimated economic benefit. Which approximates the 2018 CBO report. What part of that do you not understand about dynamic scoring?

    I didn't argue anything about interest rates. All I said about interest rates are they the CBO increased the projected $1.5 trillion deficit addition to $1.9 trillion largely because interest rates are going up faster than they expected in December.

    It's like you aren't even in the same conversation. Fucking read what is typed. And understand basic concepts like dynamic scoring.
    HondoFS...an embarrassment to the human genetic pool.

    You said I was wrong and asked for a link...I gave you the link, specifically the source material. You then said the numbers are wrong...I pull out the specific numbers from the CBO report itself that show you are a fucking moron and backed up what I said as far as both the CBO impact on revenues from both legislative changes and economic changes.

    So now you keep ignoring anything I said or showed and now just keep blabbering "dynamic" because you think it sounds important or special or something when you have absolutely no clue what it includes and doesn't include.

    HondoFS...



    You are funny shit. And are either trolling or really that fucking stupid. I'll say this one last time. The CBO scored the deficit in December at $1.5 trillion, which took into effect The increase in jobs and GDP.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/business/house-republicans-change-rules-on-calculating-economic-impact-of-bills.html
    Changing the argument again?

    The CBO forecasted the economy last year before the tax cuts were passed. The CBO forecasted the economy this year after the tax cuts were passed. Amazingly enough, anyone not HondoFS can compare the 2.

    Keep typing moron...
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Well, both Corker and the idiot that wrote that article are fucktards that are trying to compete with HondoFS.

    If you dig into the CBO numbers (and no one really should because they are never right), they also upped their GDP forecast significantly the next couple of years and revenue forecast from higher employment rates, etc, which means according to the CBO about 75-80% of the $1.9 trillion tax cut is getting paid for by increased economic activity.

    If you are going to quote them at least do it accurately...

    HondoFS...

    You do realize that the $1.9 trillion figure, which was originally $1.5 trillion, is already using dynamic scoring right? I'd look that term up, as you clearly are not familiar.

    So no 75-80% will not be made up by increased activity.

    You seriously are the stupidest motherfucker here. Mostly because you actually think you are smart. Sledog and OBK don't try to support their bullshit.
    Hey fucktard, can you read?

    What was the CBO's last GDP forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the CBO's last forecast for entitlement spending (welfare and such) before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    What was the predicted GDP out in the future, say 10 years from now, in the last CBO forecast before the tax cut? What is it in this forecast? Did it go up or down?

    None of that is covered in whatever you think dynamic scoring is. I'd recommend running along now and playing with shiny objects in the corner, but instead I'm sure you are going to start spamming this board with all sorts of nonsense while ignoring the simple points above.


    Actually all of that is included in dynamic scoring. What they did miss tho is interest rates rising faster than expected.

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/finance/382319-gop-tax-law-will-add-19-trillion-to-debt-cbo?amp

    That being said, post some link or something demonstrating your point. Or GTFO.
    Reading is hard.

    Link to 2017 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52370

    Link to 2018 CBO estimate:
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53651

    A few examples:
    2017 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 2%
    2017 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 1.5%

    2018 CBO estimate on 2018 GDP growth: 3.3%
    2018 CBO estimate on 2019 GDP growth: 2.4%

    And on and on. The forecasted unemployment rate is several tenths of a % lower and a bunch of other good economic things. Dig in deeper and you see one of the biggest changes is the forecasted interest rates moving higher much, much quicker...because of why again? For the HondoFS of the world its because they upped their forecast of economic growth, which mean they also upped their forecast for interest rate hikes for the Fed to react to it. Feel free to argue we should make the economy shitty again so we can have 0% interest rates for the $19 trillion in debt we have already wrung up...don't think that is a winner.

    You and some govt Excel jockey can go back and say all sorts of great things might maybe would have happened anyway even if the tax cuts and other policies didn't happen so the baseline really should get moved, but we have their forecast from last year, a year's worth of policy, and their current forecast. And it says most of it gets paid for. As a coach once said...Scoreboard baby.

    But the CBO estimate says all sorts of other screwy stuff as well that will never happen, so it is pretty worthless. Keep spamming on though...I'm sure a 3rd link to the same idiot author will make a difference this time.

    HondoFS...
    Yes and all those increases are included in dynamic scoring and already included in the $1.9 trillion increase to the debt. I'm still waiting for how 75-80% of that $1.9 trillion will be made up from the economic benefit.

    BTW, I haven't argued in any way that the tax cuts wouldn't increase GDP growth or reduce unemployment.
    No, they aren't. You asked for a link, I gave it to you. You asked for numbers, I gave them to you. I'll try one more time, but god you are a moron.

    From the 2018 link above:
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Legislative" = -$1.7 trillion
    Delta in Revenues from 2017 Forecast due to "Economic" = +$1.1 trillion
    That give you ~70%...dig in a little more and the lower unemployment rates, etc gives you a bit more benefit.

    Keep arguing we should crater the economy because the lower interest rate will help debt servicing of the $19 trillion already run up...that's a winner.

    In short, I'd recommend heading back to your corner now with your shiny objects...

    I'll type this slowly so maybe you'll understand. Because you clearly don't. I'm not arguing that the 2018 forecast is higher growth than the 2017. What I'm saying is, they didn't use the 2017 CBO projection solely for the scoring of the tax cut. They used dynamic scoring which took the 2017 CBO projections and added an estimated economic benefit. Which approximates the 2018 CBO report. What part of that do you not understand about dynamic scoring?

    I didn't argue anything about interest rates. All I said about interest rates are they the CBO increased the projected $1.5 trillion deficit addition to $1.9 trillion largely because interest rates are going up faster than they expected in December.

    It's like you aren't even in the same conversation. Fucking read what is typed. And understand basic concepts like dynamic scoring.
    HondoFS...an embarrassment to the human genetic pool.

    You said I was wrong and asked for a link...I gave you the link, specifically the source material. You then said the numbers are wrong...I pull out the specific numbers from the CBO report itself that show you are a fucking moron and backed up what I said as far as both the CBO impact on revenues from both legislative changes and economic changes.

    So now you keep ignoring anything I said or showed and now just keep blabbering "dynamic" because you think it sounds important or special or something when you have absolutely no clue what it includes and doesn't include.

    HondoFS...



    You are funny shit. And are either trolling or really that fucking stupid. I'll say this one last time. The CBO scored the deficit in December at $1.5 trillion, which took into effect The increase in jobs and GDP.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/business/house-republicans-change-rules-on-calculating-economic-impact-of-bills.html
    Changing the argument again?

    The CBO forecasted the economy last year before the tax cuts were passed. The CBO forecasted the economy this year after the tax cuts were passed. Amazingly enough, anyone not HondoFS can compare the 2.

    Keep typing moron...
    Didn't think you understood dynamic scoring.
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