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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
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    topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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    I would be okay with confiscating all of them


    Since I don't have any

    This would be quite the epic television moment.

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,709
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    topdawgnc said:

    I would be okay with confiscating all of them


    Since I don't have any

    This would be quite the epic television moment.

    Will it be OK if they sew your mouth shut if you don't say much?
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    Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,862
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    2001400ex said:

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.

    The NRA understands that it must have a (near) zero-tolerance approach to regulations. It's the only way to balance out the opposing force that wants to completely ban guns. And even then, the opposing force is slowly winning the battle.

    That and if there were ever such a thing as an amount of gun control that didn't leave advocates still dreaming of a day when more restrictions are passed, then maybe the NRA wouldn't need to exist.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
    I haven't kept up with it closely, but a great deal of what I have heard includes total bans to "assault weapons," which is utter bullshit. If everyone wants to argue better background checks and mental health stuff and raising the age for purchasing guns to 21, then I'll listen at least, but if this is a "ban anything that looks scary" then anyone who espouses that can fuck right off.

    If "we" ever go along with banning classes of firearms, then semi-auto pistols are next, followed by high powered rifles, then those pesky wheel guns, and lastly sporting shot guns. The anti-gun zealots ARE for complete disarmament, and they know it can't happen all at once, so let's get the kids good and pissed off and try to get AR's. For now. And in 20 years we will be back for your Glock. And 20 years after that your Browning bolt action. That's how this stuff works. You know that. I am not claiming YOU want to ban all guns, but the losers at Handgun Control Inc. DO want to ban all guns, and they think they are starting with low hanging fruit. Fuck them. You can't have mine. None of them.
    The Brady bill in the 90s didn't lead to more and more restrictions. In Australia, gun ownership now is higher than it was before the confiscation.

    I think we are closer than you think, really just making it harder for the idiots that are going to shoot up schools or concerts or whatever to get guns will be a step.
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    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    But then again, for the sake of pushing this one out a bit, if we'd had this bored in the 1960s, you'd have been here saying the same thing.

    Turns out, the hippies were right about some things, wrong about some things, they grew up, and here we are. Societies develop in part with tensions between factions and the result is a new norm. Same is it ever was.

    I hear you, but don't be so dramatic. It's not your style.

    When Constantine handed Rome over to the Christians, that was a permanent paradigm shift. Ask Race; he was there.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,892
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    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
    I haven't kept up with it closely, but a great deal of what I have heard includes total bans to "assault weapons," which is utter bullshit. If everyone wants to argue better background checks and mental health stuff and raising the age for purchasing guns to 21, then I'll listen at least, but if this is a "ban anything that looks scary" then anyone who espouses that can fuck right off.

    If "we" ever go along with banning classes of firearms, then semi-auto pistols are next, followed by high powered rifles, then those pesky wheel guns, and lastly sporting shot guns. The anti-gun zealots ARE for complete disarmament, and they know it can't happen all at once, so let's get the kids good and pissed off and try to get AR's. For now. And in 20 years we will be back for your Glock. And 20 years after that your Browning bolt action. That's how this stuff works. You know that. I am not claiming YOU want to ban all guns, but the losers at Handgun Control Inc. DO want to ban all guns, and they think they are starting with low hanging fruit. Fuck them. You can't have mine. None of them.
    What I still don't get, however, about the "if you ban this class of firearm, then this one is next" line of reasoning is why aren't you pissed off and fired up about not being able to go legally buy a fully auto, AR, AK, Uzzi, etc. And I'm being ded serious here- i.e., how aren't your 2nd amendment rights being infringed upon here? The feds banned Tommy guns in 1934 (via taxation) at a time when the country was overall far more conservative. And now with a far more liberal, big guvmint country you have access to more cool guns than anyone in the 1930's could ever have dreamed of.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
    I haven't kept up with it closely, but a great deal of what I have heard includes total bans to "assault weapons," which is utter bullshit. If everyone wants to argue better background checks and mental health stuff and raising the age for purchasing guns to 21, then I'll listen at least, but if this is a "ban anything that looks scary" then anyone who espouses that can fuck right off.

    If "we" ever go along with banning classes of firearms, then semi-auto pistols are next, followed by high powered rifles, then those pesky wheel guns, and lastly sporting shot guns. The anti-gun zealots ARE for complete disarmament, and they know it can't happen all at once, so let's get the kids good and pissed off and try to get AR's. For now. And in 20 years we will be back for your Glock. And 20 years after that your Browning bolt action. That's how this stuff works. You know that. I am not claiming YOU want to ban all guns, but the losers at Handgun Control Inc. DO want to ban all guns, and they think they are starting with low hanging fruit. Fuck them. You can't have mine. None of them.
    What I still don't get, however, about the "if you ban this class of firearm, then this one is next" line of reasoning is why aren't you pissed off and fired up about not being able to go legally buy a fully auto, AR, AK, Uzzi, etc. And I'm being ded serious here- i.e., how aren't your 2nd amendment rights being infringed upon here? The feds banned Tommy guns in 1934 (via taxation) at a time when the country was overall far more conservative. And now with a far more liberal, big guvmint country you have access to more cool guns than anyone in the 1930's could ever have dreamed of.
    On principle I agree with you. It’s an infringement. Personally I don’t want automatic weapons broadly available, except to me.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.

    The NRA understands that it must have a (near) zero-tolerance approach to regulations. It's the only way to balance out the opposing force that wants to completely ban guns. And even then, the opposing force is slowly winning the battle.

    That and if there were ever such a thing as an amount of gun control that didn't leave advocates still dreaming of a day when more restrictions are passed, then maybe the NRA wouldn't need to exist.
    The NRA is a good thing and it's necessary, that we do agree. I'm just saying they should be the one to find a solution to save lives.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,892
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    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
    I haven't kept up with it closely, but a great deal of what I have heard includes total bans to "assault weapons," which is utter bullshit. If everyone wants to argue better background checks and mental health stuff and raising the age for purchasing guns to 21, then I'll listen at least, but if this is a "ban anything that looks scary" then anyone who espouses that can fuck right off.

    If "we" ever go along with banning classes of firearms, then semi-auto pistols are next, followed by high powered rifles, then those pesky wheel guns, and lastly sporting shot guns. The anti-gun zealots ARE for complete disarmament, and they know it can't happen all at once, so let's get the kids good and pissed off and try to get AR's. For now. And in 20 years we will be back for your Glock. And 20 years after that your Browning bolt action. That's how this stuff works. You know that. I am not claiming YOU want to ban all guns, but the losers at Handgun Control Inc. DO want to ban all guns, and they think they are starting with low hanging fruit. Fuck them. You can't have mine. None of them.
    What I still don't get, however, about the "if you ban this class of firearm, then this one is next" line of reasoning is why aren't you pissed off and fired up about not being able to go legally buy a fully auto, AR, AK, Uzzi, etc. And I'm being ded serious here- i.e., how aren't your 2nd amendment rights being infringed upon here? The feds banned Tommy guns in 1934 (via taxation) at a time when the country was overall far more conservative. And now with a far more liberal, big guvmint country you have access to more cool guns than anyone in the 1930's could ever have dreamed of.
    On principle I agree with you. It’s an infringement. Personally I don’t want automatic weapons broadly available, except to me.
    And that to me is the crux of the issue right there. If you believe emphatically that the constitution protects your right to own hi-capacity semi-autos, then logically it follows that you have to support the right to own fully auto, otherwise, you are conceding the point that the government does in fact have a valid interest in making sure they are "well regulated".
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,709
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    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
    I haven't kept up with it closely, but a great deal of what I have heard includes total bans to "assault weapons," which is utter bullshit. If everyone wants to argue better background checks and mental health stuff and raising the age for purchasing guns to 21, then I'll listen at least, but if this is a "ban anything that looks scary" then anyone who espouses that can fuck right off.

    If "we" ever go along with banning classes of firearms, then semi-auto pistols are next, followed by high powered rifles, then those pesky wheel guns, and lastly sporting shot guns. The anti-gun zealots ARE for complete disarmament, and they know it can't happen all at once, so let's get the kids good and pissed off and try to get AR's. For now. And in 20 years we will be back for your Glock. And 20 years after that your Browning bolt action. That's how this stuff works. You know that. I am not claiming YOU want to ban all guns, but the losers at Handgun Control Inc. DO want to ban all guns, and they think they are starting with low hanging fruit. Fuck them. You can't have mine. None of them.
    The Brady bill in the 90s didn't lead to more and more restrictions. In Australia, gun ownership now is higher than it was before the confiscation.

    I think we are closer than you think, really just making it harder for the idiots that are going to shoot up schools or concerts or whatever to get guns will be a step.
    And which law will prevent that? Name it please.
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    Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,862
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.

    The NRA understands that it must have a (near) zero-tolerance approach to regulations. It's the only way to balance out the opposing force that wants to completely ban guns. And even then, the opposing force is slowly winning the battle.

    That and if there were ever such a thing as an amount of gun control that didn't leave advocates still dreaming of a day when more restrictions are passed, then maybe the NRA wouldn't need to exist.
    The NRA is a good thing and it's necessary, that we do agree. I'm just saying they should be the one to find a solution to save lives.
    https://explore.nra.org/interests/safety-and-education/
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,709
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    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
    I haven't kept up with it closely, but a great deal of what I have heard includes total bans to "assault weapons," which is utter bullshit. If everyone wants to argue better background checks and mental health stuff and raising the age for purchasing guns to 21, then I'll listen at least, but if this is a "ban anything that looks scary" then anyone who espouses that can fuck right off.

    If "we" ever go along with banning classes of firearms, then semi-auto pistols are next, followed by high powered rifles, then those pesky wheel guns, and lastly sporting shot guns. The anti-gun zealots ARE for complete disarmament, and they know it can't happen all at once, so let's get the kids good and pissed off and try to get AR's. For now. And in 20 years we will be back for your Glock. And 20 years after that your Browning bolt action. That's how this stuff works. You know that. I am not claiming YOU want to ban all guns, but the losers at Handgun Control Inc. DO want to ban all guns, and they think they are starting with low hanging fruit. Fuck them. You can't have mine. None of them.
    What I still don't get, however, about the "if you ban this class of firearm, then this one is next" line of reasoning is why aren't you pissed off and fired up about not being able to go legally buy a fully auto, AR, AK, Uzzi, etc. And I'm being ded serious here- i.e., how aren't your 2nd amendment rights being infringed upon here? The feds banned Tommy guns in 1934 (via taxation) at a time when the country was overall far more conservative. And now with a far more liberal, big guvmint country you have access to more cool guns than anyone in the 1930's could ever have dreamed of.
    I am pissed off about not being able to easily purchase a machine gun, truth be told. But, I have several friends that do in fact own them. You can legally own a machine gun, you just set yourself up for all kinds of ATF inspections and such.

    You are correct that it is illegal (I believe) to import or create any MORE machine guns for civilian ownership, so what is available is available and there will never be any more for legal ownership. So, if I want one i have to wait like a year for paperwork to go through, and then fork out like 10 grand for a shitty uzi because there are a finite amount of them available.

    Also, to my knowledge no legally owned machine gun has ever been used in the commission of a crime. Just putting that out there. They are too damn expensive and so many restrictions to ownership that nut jobs don't usually have them.

    Man, I really want a full auto now. Thanks. Dick.
    Actually there has been 2 uses of legal machine guns being used in a crime. IIRC both were guys offing their wives.

    Shows how few gun owners commit crimes. If the NRA was the ones killing people as the left loves to shout we'd have one hell of a lot more dead people.

    I'll toss this in as Las Vegas still stinks to high heaven.

    http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/03/turning-over-compost-heap-we-find.html
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    That is a lot of fucking drone strikes
    He's trying to create more communists than that.
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    Sledog said:

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:



    Been warning you, these brainwashed retards on the radical fringe of the left are growing in power and numbers. Got no clue about the 2nd amendment and why it's important to maintain a free society. Germany has gun control & Merkel's police will come to your house if they don't like your facebook posts. That's the kind of shit that starts happening when you cede your freedom and ability to protect yourself to the state.

    Radical fringe? You fucking triggered idiot. The majority of the country wants some form of gun control. And the now the NRA and idiots like you keep saying no changes. Then more of these will happen then we could get driven into an Austrian style confiscation.
    You've got a point, but you made it by accident, it's not one you're smart enough to see, because you're a stooge with limited mental capacity. More and more the radical fringe is becoming mainstream. To the point where people are actually questioning the 2nd amendment. They're already questioning their right to free speech. This mainstreaming of idiocy will lead to a crackdown on the freedoms you enjoy when the new generation of fuckwits that were raised in safe spaces and indoctrinated into the ideology of the fascist left, gains power in the future.
    When OBK is right, he's right.
    Well what I can tell you. No one of any power is actually talking about taking guns away. Anyone with a brain knows that'll never fly here. And the way the GOP is responding to that generation, how do you think that'll play in 5 years when they are voters?

    That being said, if you know what the actual march was about.... They are looking for meaningful controls over guns. Shit like background checks and stuff. Yes I'm sure you could find a few fuckwads that want to ban guns. That's far from the majority.

    Like I said, if the NRA continues it's "we ain't gonna do shit but we want to add more guns to the mix" stance, it'll backfire.
    I haven't kept up with it closely, but a great deal of what I have heard includes total bans to "assault weapons," which is utter bullshit. If everyone wants to argue better background checks and mental health stuff and raising the age for purchasing guns to 21, then I'll listen at least, but if this is a "ban anything that looks scary" then anyone who espouses that can fuck right off.

    If "we" ever go along with banning classes of firearms, then semi-auto pistols are next, followed by high powered rifles, then those pesky wheel guns, and lastly sporting shot guns. The anti-gun zealots ARE for complete disarmament, and they know it can't happen all at once, so let's get the kids good and pissed off and try to get AR's. For now. And in 20 years we will be back for your Glock. And 20 years after that your Browning bolt action. That's how this stuff works. You know that. I am not claiming YOU want to ban all guns, but the losers at Handgun Control Inc. DO want to ban all guns, and they think they are starting with low hanging fruit. Fuck them. You can't have mine. None of them.
    What I still don't get, however, about the "if you ban this class of firearm, then this one is next" line of reasoning is why aren't you pissed off and fired up about not being able to go legally buy a fully auto, AR, AK, Uzzi, etc. And I'm being ded serious here- i.e., how aren't your 2nd amendment rights being infringed upon here? The feds banned Tommy guns in 1934 (via taxation) at a time when the country was overall far more conservative. And now with a far more liberal, big guvmint country you have access to more cool guns than anyone in the 1930's could ever have dreamed of.
    I am pissed off about not being able to easily purchase a machine gun, truth be told. But, I have several friends that do in fact own them. You can legally own a machine gun, you just set yourself up for all kinds of ATF inspections and such.

    You are correct that it is illegal (I believe) to import or create any MORE machine guns for civilian ownership, so what is available is available and there will never be any more for legal ownership. So, if I want one i have to wait like a year for paperwork to go through, and then fork out like 10 grand for a shitty uzi because there are a finite amount of them available.

    Also, to my knowledge no legally owned machine gun has ever been used in the commission of a crime. Just putting that out there. They are too damn expensive and so many restrictions to ownership that nut jobs don't usually have them.

    Man, I really want a full auto now. Thanks. Dick.
    Actually there has been 2 uses of legal machine guns being used in a crime. IIRC both were guys offing their wives.

    Shows how few gun owners commit crimes. If the NRA was the ones killing people as the left loves to shout we'd have one hell of a lot more dead people.

    I'll toss this in as Las Vegas still stinks to high heaven.

    http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/03/turning-over-compost-heap-we-find.html
    I call that a kinetic divorce. No problems.
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