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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'll simplify for those lacking. Totalitarian governments of all types exist because they do not allow the populace to possess arms. Our revolution was kicked off by the British marching on Concord and Lexington to sieze the colonists powder and arms stores.

    Millions of dead people can't be wrong.

    In England in the mid - 1600's there was no "right to bear arms" (that didn't come until 1689 with the English Bill of Rights). In Russia in the 1600's there was no right bear arms either. Yet, in both countries there were plenty of swords, pikes and matchlocks floating about. Somehow the English managed to overthrow their monarch BEFORE having their 2nd Amendment. The Russians and their elites of the time couldn't even began to contemplate something like overthrowing the Czars because they sucked.

    We are free country because we are a nation founded by Englishmen. Ideas matter more than the guns which are just a tool. The guns aren't worth shit unless paired with the right ideas and culture. If you'd like an example of what armed paramilitary groups with shitty ideas look like, see the NSDAP and Bolsheviks.
    Our country was founded by Christians who happened to be English and who didn't appreciate a monarchy they had no voice in. We're free because they had the will as well as the means to overthrow that distant government. They possessed arms since they were carving the settlements from the wilderness "The Bill of Rights 1689 allowed Protestant citizens of England to "have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law". Catholics seem a bit left out. They wrote the constitution and said the right to keep and bear arms is inalienable and that it preexisted the constitution as a basic God given right of a free man and did not place limitations on that right.

    The founders actually thought we'd have a revolution every 5 to 20 years.

    No communist or socialist governments allow the possession of arms by the masses as they don't wish to be shot. And you are correct the Bolsheviks etc. were the wrong people.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/268dmc/how_were_sidearms_swords_knives_etc_regulated_in/

    Places like Japan commoners were never allowed swords.

    I tried to keep it short and sweet.

    Where are your quotes on founders and God given right? Biblical quotes would be cool too.
    The philosophy of natural rights was championed by such Founding
    Fathers as Richard Bland, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson,
    Richard Henry Lee, James Madison, George Mason, Robert Carter
    Nicholas, Peyton Randolph, George Washington, and George Wythe.

    The Virginia Founding Fathers were in substantial agreement
    that the ultimate source of our natural rights was our Creator. Men
    "are endowed by their Creator" with inherent and inalienable rights,
    said Thomas Jefferson in the memorable language of the Declaration
    of Independence.14 Earlier Jefferson had written in his Summary View
    that "the God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time."' 5 We
    have natural rights of the intellect, he indicated, "because Almighty
    God hath created the mind free . .. "16 Speaking of the natural
    right of expatriation, Jefferson said in the Summary View: "The
    evidence of this natural right, like that of our right to life, liberty, the
    use of our faculties, the pursuit of happiness, is not left to the feeble
    and sophistical investigations of reason, but is impressed on the sense
    of every man. We do not claim these under the charters of kings or
    legislators, but under the King of kings."' 7 In his Notes on Virginia,
    Jefferson wrote: "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure
    when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds
    of the people that these liberties are the gift of God?"18 Speaking there
    of our natural rights, he concluded: "We are answerable for them to
    our God."' 9 It was in the Summary View in which Jefferson asserted
    that Parliament had no power to encroach "upon those rights which
    God and the laws have given equally and independently to all."
    You are missing the words "right to bear arms" anywhere around there. Dumbfuck.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are (1) endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That (2) to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, (3) deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    From this one paragraph, we learn three foundational principles of our Constitutional Republic:

    Our rights are unalienable and come from God.
    The purpose of Civil Government is to protect our God-given rights.
    Civil government is legitimate only when it operates with our consent.
    Where does it say God given right to bear arms?
    Hold on I'll get a retard to translate for you, Creepy help him out.
    You are bad at life.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'll simplify for those lacking. Totalitarian governments of all types exist because they do not allow the populace to possess arms. Our revolution was kicked off by the British marching on Concord and Lexington to sieze the colonists powder and arms stores.

    Millions of dead people can't be wrong.

    In England in the mid - 1600's there was no "right to bear arms" (that didn't come until 1689 with the English Bill of Rights). In Russia in the 1600's there was no right bear arms either. Yet, in both countries there were plenty of swords, pikes and matchlocks floating about. Somehow the English managed to overthrow their monarch BEFORE having their 2nd Amendment. The Russians and their elites of the time couldn't even began to contemplate something like overthrowing the Czars because they sucked.

    We are free country because we are a nation founded by Englishmen. Ideas matter more than the guns which are just a tool. The guns aren't worth shit unless paired with the right ideas and culture. If you'd like an example of what armed paramilitary groups with shitty ideas look like, see the NSDAP and Bolsheviks.
    Our country was founded by Christians who happened to be English and who didn't appreciate a monarchy they had no voice in. We're free because they had the will as well as the means to overthrow that distant government. They possessed arms since they were carving the settlements from the wilderness "The Bill of Rights 1689 allowed Protestant citizens of England to "have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law". Catholics seem a bit left out. They wrote the constitution and said the right to keep and bear arms is inalienable and that it preexisted the constitution as a basic God given right of a free man and did not place limitations on that right.

    The founders actually thought we'd have a revolution every 5 to 20 years.

    No communist or socialist governments allow the possession of arms by the masses as they don't wish to be shot. And you are correct the Bolsheviks etc. were the wrong people.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/268dmc/how_were_sidearms_swords_knives_etc_regulated_in/

    Places like Japan commoners were never allowed swords.

    I tried to keep it short and sweet.

    Where are your quotes on founders and God given right? Biblical quotes would be cool too.
    One of my faves:


    Wut?

    “Thus saith the Lord God; Because the Philistines have dealt by revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred; Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast. And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.”
    ‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭25:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    Get that limey shit out of here.
    I'm just saying you're meme isn't close to accurate.
    YOU DON'T GET THE SHOW
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    WoofWoof Member Posts: 769
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    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Fake news dumbass.

    http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/spurious-quotations/
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    dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    Woof said:

    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Fake news dumbass.

    http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/spurious-quotations/
    Sledog is a noted liar and purveyor of spurious quotations.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    dflea said:

    Woof said:

    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Fake news dumbass.

    http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/spurious-quotations/
    Sledog is a noted liar illiterate retard and purveyor spewer of spurious quotations cock gobbling non-sense.
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    WoofWoof Member Posts: 769
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    dflea said:

    Woof said:

    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Fake news dumbass.

    http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/spurious-quotations/
    Sledog is a noted liar illiterate retard and purveyor spewer of spurious quotations cock gobbling non-sense.
    Agreed. I was mainly focused on chinlightening those poasters that chinned his original quote.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,583
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    dflea said:

    Woof said:

    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Fake news dumbass.

    http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/spurious-quotations/
    Sledog is a noted liar illiterate retard and purveyor spewer of spurious quotations cock gobbling non-sense.
    The term cock gobbling is underused
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,720
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    dflea said:

    Woof said:

    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Fake news dumbass.

    http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/spurious-quotations/
    Sledog is a noted liar illiterate retard and purveyor spewer of spurious quotations cock gobbling non-sense.
    The term cock gobbling is underused
    Creep and Dflea are chodlers of renown.
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Bogus Washington quite is bogus.

    Geroge Washington *did* say this about the Whiskey Rebellion (note the difference in tone, syntax, and vocabulary):

    Know precisely what the insurgents aim at. If they have real grievances, redress them if possible; or acknowledge the justice of them, and your inability to do it in the present moment. If they have not, employ the force of government against them at once. If this is inadequate, all will be convinced that the superstructure is bad, or wants support. To be more exposed in the eyes of the world, and more contemptible than we already are, is hardly possible.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,892
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    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
    George Washington
    First President of the United States

    Bogus Washington quite is bogus.

    Geroge Washington *did* say this about the Whiskey Rebellion (note the difference in tone, syntax, and vocabulary):

    "Know precisely what the insurgents aim at. If they have real grievances, redress them if possible; or acknowledge the justice of them, and your inability to do it in the present moment. If they have not, employ the force of government against them at once. If this is inadequate, all will be convinced that the superstructure is bad, or wants support. To be more exposed in the eyes of the world, and more contemptible than we already are, is hardly possible."
    What he actually said behind closed doors to a colleague:





    Said the guy who never sired any off-spring of his own (even with the help). Alas, this worked out in the long run, so he could focus on being Father of the Nation.
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