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Hate Monopolies? Then You Should be Pissed About the Abolition of Net Neutrality

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    ToddTurnerLIVESToddTurnerLIVES Member Posts: 438
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    Another example where if it was so important, it should have been legislated rather than through agency rules.

    You're making the assumption that 70 year olds(sorry Race) in Congress have any grasp on issues that deal with technology. A good portion of these idiots don't even use computers so they're definitely not going to put together coherent legislation on net neutrality.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Not edumarcated enough on this particular subject, but so far from what I've read, I'm siding with the bored's socialists/commies on this one until I get more up to speed.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,172
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    Net Neutrality

    Climate Change

    Just not discussed enough here

    Is Infowars not covering this or something? Pai just announced the changes.
    I don't know. I assume you read infowars more than I do since I never have

    But really, great comeback. We need more of this incisive discussion
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,172
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    Another example where if it was so important, it should have been legislated rather than through agency rules.

    You're making the assumption that 70 year olds(sorry Race) in Congress have any grasp on issues that deal with technology. A good portion of these idiots don't even use computers so they're definitely not going to put together coherent legislation on net neutrality.
    You're assuming congress people have a clue about anything. Their millennial staff will read it

    President Obama could have had his staff craft the bill and present it to help all those old folks out.

    Live by the EO die by it
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Another example where if it was so important, it should have been legislated rather than through agency rules.

    You're making the assumption that 70 year olds(sorry Race) in Congress have any grasp on issues that deal with technology. A good portion of these idiots don't even use computers so they're definitely not going to put together coherent legislation on net neutrality.
    You're assuming congress people have a clue about anything. Their millennial staff will read it

    President Obama could have had his staff craft the bill and present it to help all those old folks out.

    Live by the EO die by it
    That
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    dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,220
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    Not edumarcated enough on this particular subject, but so far from what I've read, I'm siding with the bored's socialists/commies on this one until I get more up to speed.

    You're not educated enough on any subject, faggot, but that never stops you from running your cake hole.

    dflea said:

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    Brilliant 2nd grade comeback. Maybe the grade level is indicative of height?
    Oh look. The pot is calling the kettle black.

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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    dflea said:

    Not edumarcated enough on this particular subject, but so far from what I've read, I'm siding with the bored's socialists/commies on this one until I get more up to speed.


    Oh look. The pot is calling the kettle black.

    Brilliant 2nd grade comeback. Maybe the grade level is indicative of height?
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Could have sworn I just read a great poast from ToddTurnerLives about how net neutrality works using electrical companies as an example and it went poof...
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Hi, Congress wouldn't have passed the Bible if Obummer proposed it. You know that.

    Besides, free market types are supposed to be against monopolies. especially those assisted by government action. No?
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    Could have sworn I just read a great poast from ToddTurnerLives about how net neutrality works using electrical companies as an example and it went poof...

    @DerekJohnson
    @DerekIsKim
    @Dereks_75k_lover
    @DerekReallyIsKim
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,172
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    I;m against most ideas by the left these days. It's a good gauge

    A leader presents legislation and works with Congress to get it passed. You know, the shit you are already calling Trump a failure for but gave Obama an eight year pass on.

    This free market type wants market decisions made in the light of day. Not by bought and paid for regulators

    If it is such an awesome thing Congress would have passed it if the Leader of the Free World had used his awesome teleprompter skills to sell it to the unwashed
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    I;m against most ideas by the left these days. It's a good gauge

    A leader presents legislation and works with Congress to get it passed. You know, the shit you are already calling Trump a failure for but gave Obama an eight year pass on.

    This free market type wants market decisions made in the light of day. Not by bought and paid for regulators

    If it is such an awesome thing Congress would have passed it if the Leader of the Free World had used his awesome teleprompter skills to sell it to the unwashed

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    Pai left his Department of Justice post in February 2001 to serve as Associate General Counsel at Verizon Communications Inc., where he handled competition matters, regulatory issues, and counseling of business units on broadband initiatives.[1]

    Pai left Verizon in April 2003 and was hired as Deputy Chief Counsel to the United States Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts. He returned to the Department of Justice to serve as Senior Counsel in the Office of Legal Policy in May 2004. He held that position until February 2005, when he was hired as Chief Counsel to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Property Rights.

    Between 2007 and 2011, Pai held several positions in the FCC's Office of General Counsel, serving most prominently as Deputy General Counsel. In this role, he had supervisory responsibility over several dozen lawyers in the Administrative Law Division and worked on a wide variety of regulatory and transactional matters involving the wireless, wireline, cable, Internet, media, and satellite industries.[1] In 2010, Pai was one of 55 individuals nationwide chosen for the 2011 Marshall Memorial Fellowship, a leadership development initiative of the German Marshall Fund of the United States.[1] Pai returned to the private sector in April 2011, working in the Washington, D.C., office of law firm Jenner & Block where he was a partner in the Communications Practice.
    Jenner & Block represents telecommunications and media clients in a wide range of litigation in courts across the country. These cases cover the full gamut of issues, including spectrum licenses, media ownership, video programming and media content, intercarrier compensation and Administrative Procedure Act challenges to FCC orders.
    If you can't see that this guy is a bought-and-paid for K Street lobbyist then I can't help you.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,172
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    And the ones that wrote Obama's EO are illiterate losers or from the business?

    Get it in the open. Knowing the business is not a disqualifier

    We can't all be community organizers
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    enjoy your free porn while it lasts
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    AZDuck said:

    If you can't see that this guy is a bought-and-paid for K Street lobbyist then I can't help you.

    Netflix & Google poured shit-ton of money & chinfluence into the last rule making.

    Some #brave Rep or Senator should introduce a bill.
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    AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    AZDuck said:

    I;m against most ideas by the left these days. It's a good gauge

    A leader presents legislation and works with Congress to get it passed. You know, the shit you are already calling Trump a failure for but gave Obama an eight year pass on.

    This free market type wants market decisions made in the light of day. Not by bought and paid for regulators

    If it is such an awesome thing Congress would have passed it if the Leader of the Free World had used his awesome teleprompter skills to sell it to the unwashed

    image
    Pai left his Department of Justice post in February 2001 to serve as Associate General Counsel at Verizon Communications Inc., where he handled competition matters, regulatory issues, and counseling of business units on broadband initiatives.[1]

    Pai left Verizon in April 2003 and was hired as Deputy Chief Counsel to the United States Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts. He returned to the Department of Justice to serve as Senior Counsel in the Office of Legal Policy in May 2004. He held that position until February 2005, when he was hired as Chief Counsel to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Property Rights.

    Between 2007 and 2011, Pai held several positions in the FCC's Office of General Counsel, serving most prominently as Deputy General Counsel. In this role, he had supervisory responsibility over several dozen lawyers in the Administrative Law Division and worked on a wide variety of regulatory and transactional matters involving the wireless, wireline, cable, Internet, media, and satellite industries.[1] In 2010, Pai was one of 55 individuals nationwide chosen for the 2011 Marshall Memorial Fellowship, a leadership development initiative of the German Marshall Fund of the United States.[1] Pai returned to the private sector in April 2011, working in the Washington, D.C., office of law firm Jenner & Block where he was a partner in the Communications Practice.
    Jenner & Block represents telecommunications and media clients in a wide range of litigation in courts across the country. These cases cover the full gamut of issues, including spectrum licenses, media ownership, video programming and media content, intercarrier compensation and Administrative Procedure Act challenges to FCC orders.

    If you can't see that this guy is a bought-and-paid for K Street lobbyist then I can't help you.
    Netflix & Google poured shit-ton of money & chinfluence into the last rule making.

    Some #brave Rep or Senator should introduce a bill.

    Truth. Battle between folks that want to keep the pipes open, and those who don't. But no GOP bill would make it out of committee (see McConnell is the guy who nominated Pai) and folks on this bored who are against Net Neutrality are doing Comcast's bidding. Why, I have no idea.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    I stand with AZDuck on this issue. So far at least... Threatening free porn is the last straw. Things are ok as they are. Leave well enough alone.
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    UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,108
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    And the ones that wrote Obama's EO are illiterate losers or from the business?

    Get it in the open. Knowing the business is not a disqualifier

    We can't all be community organizers

    What EO are you talking about? The FCC classified ISPs as Title II, not Obama.
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