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Joseph Ngata, 5* 2019 WR, Folsom, CA (WE FUCKED THE POOCH)

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    NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,791
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    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol

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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,611
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    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

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    UDubHusky23UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889
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    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
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    AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 6,973
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    DIdn't Lubick also have an influence over Culp as well? Last year he did well and personally i don't even like the Trey Lowe signing (midget wr's are worthless to me against the real teams).

    So far l like Taj Davis, if he were to get Pittman as well that a is a good haul. Disappointing when you have a decent shot at a talent like Ngata though. Need a bigger sample size.

    Fair point about Delgado but that may not be his decision either so who knows
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    UDubHusky23UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889
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    DIdn't Lubick also have an influence over Culp as well? Last year he did well and personally i don't even like the Trey Lowe signing (midget wr's are worthless to me against the real teams).

    So far l like Taj Davis, if he were to get Pittman as well that a is a good haul. Disappointing when you have a decent shot at a talent like Ngata though. Need a bigger sample size.

    Fair point about Delgado but that may not be his decision either so who knows

    I know both Yankoff and Culp were committed to whoregon before. But i read somewhere that Coach Yost the guy with the crazy hair was both lead recruiter for both of them. Who knows how big of an influence Lubick played in getting Culp but I just think its premature to categorize him in the Fu$K cateogry that is so far reserved only for Lake right now. Bush is making his way up there but I would like to see it on a consistent year by year basis like Lake.
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,611
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    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Sorry but this all seems dumb to me. Ngata is going through the process and enjoying it and could already be a sealed deal for UW for all we know. You're implying that his interest in last year's runner up and the 2016 champ must be a failure on Lubick's part. It's all assumption and supposition is all I'm saying.

    Same goes for your statements in Delgado and the strategy in general. Nobody here knows wtf is going on or what sort of exchanges occur between coaches and recruits.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Lubick got us Yankoff, Lowe and Culp last year. No one's claiming he had shit to do with Spiker or Osbourne. But he was the point man on three critical kids, only one of which we were likely to land without him (Culp and then only maybe).

    He fucks until he doesn't.
    He needs to get the WR's playing well before he's anything but meh. They sucked last year.
    I'm just talking from a recruiting perspective. Agree he didn't have anything close to Bush's impact on the field.
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    UDubHusky23UDubHusky23 Member Posts: 889
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Sorry but this all seems dumb to me. Ngata is going through the process and enjoying it and could already be a sealed deal for UW for all we know. You're implying that his interest in last year's runner up and the 2016 champ must be a failure on Lubick's part. It's all assumption and supposition is all I'm saying.

    Same goes for your statements in Delgado and the strategy in general. Nobody here knows wtf is going on or what sort of exchanges occur between coaches and recruits.
    I guess this is where we agree to disagree. Ngata, Ford, and Delgado seemed to be the primary targets for us at WR. I don't know if we're taking 2 or 3 WR's this year but those were are plan A choices starting off. Obviously no school gets 100% of their number one choices except Bama/Georgia. So I get it we didn't get our number one choices. We move on to kids in Texas (Lane, Lewis), and Utah (Nacua) who is probably a mission kid.

    I just can't put him in the FU$K category like Lake. Even with built-in advantages he can't keep Ngata's attention. Ford hasn't even looked our way. Nacua is probably going to USC. If he can land Ngata I'll eat crow but looking at the way WR recruiting is going with us offering kids in TX we have little to no chance at doesn't seem like a good way to use resources but the coaches know better.

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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Lubick got us Yankoff, Lowe and Culp last year. No one's claiming he had shit to do with Spiker or Osbourne. But he was the point man on three critical kids, only one of which we were likely to land without him (Culp and then only maybe).

    He fucks until he doesn't.
    He needs to get the WR's playing well before he's anything but meh. They sucked last year.
    I'm just talking from a recruiting perspective. Agree he didn't have anything close to Bush's impact on the field.
    Did you see our? WR talent last year. Only decent horse we had was Dante. You can’t win the derby on the back of donkey
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Sorry but this all seems dumb to me. Ngata is going through the process and enjoying it and could already be a sealed deal for UW for all we know. You're implying that his interest in last year's runner up and the 2016 champ must be a failure on Lubick's part. It's all assumption and supposition is all I'm saying.

    Same goes for your statements in Delgado and the strategy in general. Nobody here knows wtf is going on or what sort of exchanges occur between coaches and recruits.
    I guess this is where we agree to disagree. Ngata, Ford, and Delgado seemed to be the primary targets for us at WR. I don't know if we're taking 2 or 3 WR's this year but those were are plan A choices starting off. Obviously no school gets 100% of their number one choices except Bama/Georgia. So I get it we didn't get our number one choices. We move on to kids in Texas (Lane, Lewis), and Utah (Nacua) who is probably a mission kid.

    I just can't put him in the FU$K category like Lake. Even with built-in advantages he can't keep Ngata's attention. Ford hasn't even looked our way. Nacua is probably going to USC. If he can land Ngata I'll eat crow but looking at the way WR recruiting is going with us offering kids in TX we have little to no chance at doesn't seem like a good way to use resources but the coaches know better.

    Who is trying to put him in the same category as Lake?

    Strawmen are easy to topple.
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,611
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Sorry but this all seems dumb to me. Ngata is going through the process and enjoying it and could already be a sealed deal for UW for all we know. You're implying that his interest in last year's runner up and the 2016 champ must be a failure on Lubick's part. It's all assumption and supposition is all I'm saying.

    Same goes for your statements in Delgado and the strategy in general. Nobody here knows wtf is going on or what sort of exchanges occur between coaches and recruits.
    I guess this is where we agree to disagree. Ngata, Ford, and Delgado seemed to be the primary targets for us at WR. I don't know if we're taking 2 or 3 WR's this year but those were are plan A choices starting off. Obviously no school gets 100% of their number one choices except Bama/Georgia. So I get it we didn't get our number one choices. We move on to kids in Texas (Lane, Lewis), and Utah (Nacua) who is probably a mission kid.

    I just can't put him in the FU$K category like Lake. Even with built-in advantages he can't keep Ngata's attention. Ford hasn't even looked our way. Nacua is probably going to USC. If he can land Ngata I'll eat crow but looking at the way WR recruiting is going with us offering kids in TX we have little to no chance at doesn't seem like a good way to use resources but the coaches know better.

    More if the same. He can't keep Ngata's attention. Nacua is probably going to USC. Delgado was a primary target (slow played perhaps because they realized there were better prospects to be had) These things don't mean anything because nobody has any idea if there is any truth to them at all. You're wringing your hands over nothing, but I guess that's what tbsing is all about for some.
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant witLubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Lubick got us Yankoff, Lowe and Culp last year. No one's claiming he had shit to do with Spiker or Osbourne. But he was the point man on three critical kids, only one of which we were likely to land without him (Culp and then only maybe).

    He fucks until he doesn't.
    He needs to get the WR's playing well before he's anything but meh. They sucked last year.
    I'm just talking from a recruiting perspective. Agree he didn't have anything close to Bush's impact on the field.
    Did you see our? WR talent last year. Only decent horse we had was Dante. You can’t win the derby on the back of donkey
    Excuses are for losers. Our WR corps absolutely sucked last year. The talent was sub par, but the output was worse. With Bush, I believe that same group would have been much better. We got absolutely nothing out of Ty Jones. Baccelia and Fuller did not improve. Even Dante didn't look as good on his routes. The bowl game, which Lubick took over playcalling on was one of the most poorly called games of the year, and that's with Babushka as the OC for the rest of the season.

    As a recruiter, I'm not worried about Lubick, although people on here were way to quick to crown his ass. As a coach, I haven't liked what I've seen so far. Duck fans were not sad to see him go.
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    JECARJECAR Member Posts: 580
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    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Sorry but this all seems dumb to me. Ngata is going through the process and enjoying it and could already be a sealed deal for UW for all we know. You're implying that his interest in last year's runner up and the 2016 champ must be a failure on Lubick's part. It's all assumption and supposition is all I'm saying.

    Same goes for your statements in Delgado and the strategy in general. Nobody here knows wtf is going on or what sort of exchanges occur between coaches and recruits.
    I guess this is where we agree to disagree. Ngata, Ford, and Delgado seemed to be the primary targets for us at WR. I don't know if we're taking 2 or 3 WR's this year but those were are plan A choices starting off. Obviously no school gets 100% of their number one choices except Bama/Georgia. So I get it we didn't get our number one choices. We move on to kids in Texas (Lane, Lewis), and Utah (Nacua) who is probably a mission kid.

    I just can't put him in the FU$K category like Lake. Even with built-in advantages he can't keep Ngata's attention. Ford hasn't even looked our way. Nacua is probably going to USC. If he can land Ngata I'll eat crow but looking at the way WR recruiting is going with us offering kids in TX we have little to no chance at doesn't seem like a good way to use resources but the coaches know better.

    Who is trying to put him in the same category as Lake?

    Strawmen are easy to topple.
    Just a question to ponder Democratic National Committee (this is what I think every time I see you poast)...

    Is there a world that exists where Jimmy Lake gets fired or that we are better off without him?

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    BlastDoorBlastDoor Member Posts: 711
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    JECAR said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    Roof said this re: Ngata

    “Where Ngata is concerned? It’s a toss-up. If he doesn’t choose Clemson, but wants to stay out West, he might just pick USC”



    Cashiers check is in the mail

    Lubick's Fine lol
    So there's a problem with Lubick's recruiting because the best receiver prospect in the nation hasn't committed to UW as of early June and Roof made that speculative statement?

    I don't know man. He may suck. Seems a bit reactionary over nothing to me though. The only real evidence we have to judge his recruiting at this point is the signing class from 2018. Small sample size but at least it's a sample.

    I give credit to Lubick for landing Trey Lowe and possibly having a hand in Colson Yankoff. Austin Osborne and Marquis Spiker love Bush and were heavy leans to us because of the ground work he put down for those two.

    This year is a completely different story, Joseph Ngata had a real early offer from us. His brother plays for us, and Brandon Kaho a childhood friend with seemingly all three brothers from Reno, NV is signed with us. But Joe Ngata seems to be looking at Clemson for whatever reason. Did I say Lubick sucked? I don't know if we can put Lubick in the FU$K category after one year where two of the three guys he got were heavy leans before he even got hired and listen to their interviews. Both Austin and Marquis LOVE Pete.

    Also another reason why Im hesitant with Lubick's approach this year is the recruitment of Josh Delgado. While Im not delgado's biggest fan, Lubick needs to make a decision. Either stop slow playing him and take his commitment or be sure you have a legitimate shot with Pittman, the texas kids he's offering or get Nacua in for after his missions trip. Delgado going to oregon now which makes @Dennis_DeYoung happy!
    Sorry but this all seems dumb to me. Ngata is going through the process and enjoying it and could already be a sealed deal for UW for all we know. You're implying that his interest in last year's runner up and the 2016 champ must be a failure on Lubick's part. It's all assumption and supposition is all I'm saying.

    Same goes for your statements in Delgado and the strategy in general. Nobody here knows wtf is going on or what sort of exchanges occur between coaches and recruits.
    I guess this is where we agree to disagree. Ngata, Ford, and Delgado seemed to be the primary targets for us at WR. I don't know if we're taking 2 or 3 WR's this year but those were are plan A choices starting off. Obviously no school gets 100% of their number one choices except Bama/Georgia. So I get it we didn't get our number one choices. We move on to kids in Texas (Lane, Lewis), and Utah (Nacua) who is probably a mission kid.

    I just can't put him in the FU$K category like Lake. Even with built-in advantages he can't keep Ngata's attention. Ford hasn't even looked our way. Nacua is probably going to USC. If he can land Ngata I'll eat crow but looking at the way WR recruiting is going with us offering kids in TX we have little to no chance at doesn't seem like a good way to use resources but the coaches know better.

    Who is trying to put him in the same category as Lake?

    Strawmen are easy to topple.
    Just a question to ponder Democratic National Committee (this is what I think every time I see you poast)...

    Is there a world that exists where Jimmy Lake gets fired or that we are better off without him?

    Nick Saban needs a new challenge on his life and wants to be the DB coach. I would fire Lake for him, maybe?
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    I liked Lubick playcalling in the bowl game. Stuck with the run even when we went down big. And it paid off. He also got Browning out of the game on most important 3rd downs and ran the wild gaskin, to huge success. He put up 28 against a very good D and with an awful noodle armed pants shitter at QB.
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